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Old 09-11-2014, 05:21 PM   #15
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Replica of a replica. So awesome.
Better than a counterfeit.


None of my polo shirts are from Lacoste, but they're pretty good quality for "replicas".
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Old 09-11-2014, 05:21 PM   #16
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Yes, many replicas are poor quality. However, if you're in this niche of the industry, I'm sure you can agree that if you DO know the source of the product, then the quality will be there as well. For instance, if you can find the factory that produces all of Invidia's exhausts... you'll probably find an exhaust offering that is *very similar* to an Invidia system minus the Invidia logo. Would this exact system be inferior? Factories that are contracted to product 100pcs will often produce much more, and sell the extras on the side. None of these are patented or protected designs, so it's perfectly legal as long as they're not violating trademark law (branding).

Cheap =/= crap. You can have high quality AND low price if you know where to look, but it's difficult to find.

As for VMR Wheels, they've been in business for quite some time, serving the euro market. VMR wheels are even showcased on Berk Technologies' 1-series time attack BMW. I've also owned several sets in my past vehicles and they've all held up superbly well. Easy to check their references in the euro car scene.
I'm not going to comment on that. When free is offered, it doesn't always mean it has to be good. The Euro market gets away with stuff a lot more than the Japanese market. Somehow people think Euro > JDM.
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Not that cheap, I can assure you that. Rotas are banned from certain track events, VMRs are not... but then again, HREs are banned in some events too, so that really doesn't mean much. Rotas are made in some of the cheapest China factories (been there, I know which ones) but VMRs are actually made in a factory that caters to large name brand JDM companies (been there too). I can't say much more due to trade secrets, don't believe me if you don't want to, I don't really care.

Everyone copies everyone else... especially the split 7-spoke design. Enkei Raijins? RELEASED IN 2012? tons of manufacturers had this design prior.

Funny thing is... if "VMR" was changes to some Japanese name, and the website was all in Japanese, I think there would be much less hate/dislike, even though it could easily be a "midrange wheel market company" in Japan.

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HRE is the epitome of how marketing can upsell its value. Even ADV1 is better than HRE and they're not even that good. The blanks they purchase are uber cheap.
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EAS has it on a Z4... no fitment for BRZ (which is why I started this thread) so no pics on a BRZ...

Lol. I've had many conversations with Steve.
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VMRs are good rims. I had them on my MK5 Rabbit.
They are a bit heavy, and they are painted though, so the paint can crack and curb rash can end these very quickly.

I know the guy who owns the business, so I got hooked up at the time (VB3s).
I haven't heard anything about them warping, cracking, or otherwise not holding up on the track. The owner tracks them all the time.
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Lol. I've had many conversations with Steve.
Steve's a cool guy. I didn't talk to him much in the past though. He still have that dyno in his shop?
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Steve's a cool guy. I didn't talk to him much in the past though. He still have that dyno in his shop?
We do a lot of testing there.
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... Go talk to him about VMR then =_= might as well visit vmr next door. Unless eas moved.
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... Go talk to him about VMR then =_= might as well visit vmr next door. Unless eas moved.
Lol. What has been discussed between EAS and us will not go public.
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