Best CARB legal SC kit? Jackson? Oem reliable block rebuild? Cayman killer?

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by CSG David

We have a knack at developing our clients into potent drivers.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

There are people here who employ those techniques, unfortunately, we use finesse.

[glamcem]

it's a number game but wow

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376054

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by glamcem

it's a number game but wow

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376054

I would still love to own a Z28 one day.

[CSG David]

I actually like the Z28 a lot...305 square tire setup.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I would still love to own a Z28 one day.

I have a very good approach to make a Z28 on budget which I may test in a few years

It goes like this:

1- Buy a new or slightly used Camaro 1LE that shares the same platform, chassis, wheels, tire sizes etc.. Cost is about $29-30 K
2- Get the Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve (DSSV) damper kit from GM which costs about $3600
3- Get the Z28 spoiler, underbody panels and front spoiler (not sure about the cost but it's GM so shouldn't be much)
4- Get a Long tube header and tune which adds about 40-50 whp and make it close to the LS7 power levels- Costs about $1200
5- R compound tires, ST43 brakes and custom ducting
6- baffled oil pan/plate

that's it still less than $40k (compared to $70k Z28) that can keep up with big dogs

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by glamcem

I have a very good approach to make a Z28 on budget which I may test in a few years

It goes like this:

1- Buy a new or slightly used Camaro 1LE that shares the same platform, chassis, wheels, tire sizes etc.. Cost is about $29-30 K
2- Get the Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve (DSSV) damper kit from GM which costs about $3600
3- Get the Z28 spoiler, underbody panels and front spoiler (not sure about the cost but it's GM so shouldn't be much)
4- Get a Long tube header and tune which adds about 40-50 whp and make it close to the LS7 power levels- Costs about $1200
5- R compound tires, ST43 brakes and custom ducting
6- baffled oil pan/plate

that's it still less than $40k (compared to $70k Z28) that can keep up with big dogs

Solid plan. I have been trying to find a 1LE to test drive for months, and I haven't found one. A local dealer does have a Z28, but I doubt they will let me test drive it, and I am sure they are marking it up well past $70k. I have test driven a normal SS, and there is no way I would ever buy one of those.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Solid plan. I have been trying to find a 1LE to test drive for months, and I haven't found one. A local dealer does have a Z28, but I doubt they will let me test drive it, and I am sure they are marking it up well past $70k. I have test driven a normal SS, and there is no way I would ever buy one of those.

yeah they're hard to find since they're built to order and only available when buter changes his/her mind and cancels the order or sell it after buying, I have a friend who ended up ordering from the dealership and then the dealership changed its mind and told him they cannot sell it on the agreed price..typical stealership.. so he found himself a slightly used 2014 and his brother got a 2013 (same color )

I will closely watch their process and may follow the same route in the future if they succeed ..

being in FL, your chances are you will find one if you search more aggressively, I just love the power of the V8 and the fact not to deal with any power adder mods and mainly focus on handling mods which won't void the warranty

[Sellout]

One of the comments in that link...

Consider this: Of the Top 11 cars tested, "Peak Speed" for the Z/28 was the 2nd Slowest, yet it clicked off a Top 5 Time!

Looks to me like the grip afforded by those tires is worth a whole lot more than the GM fans would like to believe...

[Sleepless]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

TBT.... My driving skill = sh*tty ;D

...but it's all about having fun anyways.

So then why is beating a Cayman of importance? Everyone else is out to have fun at their driving experience level and that has a much bigger impact on track lap times than the car.

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by Sellout

One of the comments in that link...

Looks to me like the grip afforded by those tires is worth a whole lot more than the GM fans would like to believe...

Yes, I was thinking this too. The Z28 is in no doubt very interesting and is hanging with the top dogs. All the youtube vids of the new Z28 against various cars is very entertaining and impressive ..but I thought to myself..what if you put those same tires on the other cars it's going up against (GTR, Turbo 911, etc)? It sounds like a lot of those impressive times are due to its' close-to-R-spec tires.

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

So then why is beating a Cayman of importance?

Because I like that car, cannot afford it and the 86 is a poormans substitute.

I never said it was important. I just wanted to compare the 86 to one of my dream cars.

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by glamcem

I have a very good approach to make a Z28 on budget which I may test in a few years

It goes like this:

1- Buy a new or slightly used Camaro 1LE that shares the same platform, chassis, wheels, tire sizes etc.. Cost is about $29-30 K
2- Get the Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve (DSSV) damper kit from GM which costs about $3600
3- Get the Z28 spoiler, underbody panels and front spoiler (not sure about the cost but it's GM so shouldn't be much)
4- Get a Long tube header and tune which adds about 40-50 whp and make it close to the LS7 power levels- Costs about $1200
5- R compound tires, ST43 brakes and custom ducting
6- baffled oil pan/plate

that's it still less than $40k (compared to $70k Z28) that can keep up with big dogs

Nice plan.

What about oil? Does the 1LE have dry sump like the Z28? I think the LS3 has oil starvation issues doesn't it? ..or is it a different engine in the 1LE?

Crazy how the Z28 reportedly handles better and is much better balanced at the track than the Stingray though. I wonder if the upcoming Stingray Z06 will be below or better than the Camaro Z28 in terms of handling, or if it will have the same characteristics like the base models.

Chevy GM sure is progressing like never before ...leaving out of date Mustangs and super heavy Dodges in the dust.

[CSG Mike]

@Yui-Chan, come out to the track