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Old 08-28-2014, 12:54 PM   #15
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What about oil from a company called Klotz?

I remember when I raced model cars, the nitro fuel mixed with Klotz oil was always viewed as the best.

I know that's no comparison for our cars, but I was still curious about the company and the oil they make.

http://www.klotzlube.com/
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Old 08-28-2014, 12:58 PM   #16
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What about oil from a company called Klotz?

I remember when I raced model cars, the nitro fuel mixed with Klotz oil was always viewed as the best.

I know that's no comparison for our cars, but I was still curious about the company and the oil they make.

http://www.klotzlube.com/
Hell no, no way I want my lube to klot!
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Old 08-28-2014, 01:00 PM   #17
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Does anyone know if the Montul gear lube eliminates or reduces the rear end chatter associated when accelerating from stop on sharp left or right turns?
I'm new to this car and driving a stick. I've been wondering lately if there was something wrong with the car. When I make a sharp right turn going from an uphill straight (the last block on my way home) I've noticed a noise even though the RPM's are at around 1500. Was worried I was lugging my engine. Does this sound like the same problem you speak of?

Would be great if swapping out the gear lube would eliminate this problem.
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Old 09-02-2014, 10:45 AM   #19
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My diff would grumble on the first turn after sitting overnight then made no noise, but after running the Motul I don't get the "first turn grumble" and more.

Motul in my trans fixed the 1st to 2nd grind that I had, especially when cold.
Swapping to Motul also eliminated that first turn "grumble" in mine as well, plus the heavier hot weight feels better in the trans.
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Anyone else with constant low-speed-tight-radius (turning) chatter/groaning on Motul gear 300?

Kind of has me worried after discovering it. The fluid has about 3500 miles on it.
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Does anyone know if the Montul gear lube eliminates or reduces the rear end chatter associated when accelerating from stop on sharp left or right turns?

Yes I noticed this more than smoothing out the shifting (which fwiw it seemed close to the stock fluid, maybe a bit better when hot). The little rear end shutter of the LSD is nearly gone with the Motul when cold.
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We've been using Motul for the past 12+ years. We've had oil analysis's from Blackstone over that time from not only us but also our customers. We also use Amsoil.

Motul 8100 is our "basic" oil change. We go through roughly (1) 55 Gal Drum of it every 3-4 weeks. We also use the Motul products in all our track cars and get Blackstone analysis on them with no bad reports.

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We've been using Motul for the past 12+ years. We've had oil analysis's from Blackstone over that time from not only us but also our customers. We also use Amsoil.

Motul 8100 is our "basic" oil change. We go through roughly (1) 55 Gal Drum of it every 3-4 weeks. We also use the Motul products in all our track cars and get Blackstone analysis on them with no bad reports.

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What intervals do you see with the 8100 for street use?
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If motul, go for 300v only. Had bad experience with the h-tech variant
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There can be no doubting that Motul is great product. They seem to have among the highest amount of esters in their base stocks. I remember Joey saying something along those lines. What about Red Line? What about group 3+ ? Are you finding that only 300V and Signature Series/Dominator stand up? I will search the UOA thread herein. It must make for some interesting reading. TY.
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Why would a Torsen diff need oil with a limited slip additive/friction modifier?

Torsen T2 differentials are all gear driven.

Differentials that use it are usually Clutch type limited slip.


I changed the transmission and differential oil in my FRS a week after I bought it. The motul gear 300 did make a difference for cold driving. I never had any complaints when the transmission was at operating temp

I never had the chattering problem but I only had the factory oil in for a week.
You're right about how they work however the fluid that is associated with the clutches in differentials is separate. Which is why that style of diffs is not very popular among the used market... You can't change or replace it. Sucks. Otherwise I'd already have an na miata...
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Here's my experience with Motul:

I compete in SCCA RallyCross and my last car was a 03 WRX with a swapped STI V7 6MT. I used both Subaru Extra S and Motul 300. The Extra S began to lose its heat resistance after about a year of competition. Once the oil got some good heat in it, shifting would begin to get a little notchy. The Motul lasted through two seasons before I started noticing a drop in smoothness.
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