FR-S to show at KENNEDY COMMONS in toronto apr25/12

[quik1987]

So yes or no?

[Saibot]

ItS been confirmed. Check their fb page

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Saibot

ItS been confirmed. Check their fb page

Guess they followed my advice lol

[Jehuty77]

Dam Im too late

[macc]

scion canada said they will be there at 930
"Scion Canada We'll be at Kennedy Commons around 9:302 hours ago · Like · 2"

[Sport-Tech]

Scion was there, along with a group of about 50 people for a regular car "hangout", most of whom checked out the red MT FR-S. An engineer and a marketing guy were there, stayed about 90 minutes.

Engineer told me if you put on snows without TPMS in them the tire pressure light stays on but you can still turn the TC/VSC fully off. Even if you put sensors in your snows you have to get the dealer to reset the ECU after installing them or you will have the light. Or buy an OBD II reader that can reset the ECU for you.

Except for the colour, the car looked terrific, perfect proportions and size. Great forward and side visibility, but a HUGE blind spot, although the mirrors are big and convex to take care of that. It also sounded a lot better both inside and out when revved than you can pick up from the videos (although it was sometimes hard to tell when the Scion CUVs parked nearby were blasting their ghetto music at 150 decibels from their 1000 watt custom systems).

Shifter seemed overly notchy, but that was my only complaint. With the upgraded audio head the interior looked generally great (except for the HVAC knobs). IP way better than in photos, clear white lettering at night. IMO the fake carbon fibre looked great, and the seat fabric, while downscale, looks a lot better IRL than in photos.

[quik1987]

They let people sit in it? I regret not going

[Saibot]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Scion was there, along with a group of about 50 people for a regular car "hangout", most of whom checked out the red MT FR-S. An engineer and a marketing guy were there, stayed about 90 minutes.

Engineer told me if you put on snows without TPMS in them the tire pressure light stays on but you can still turn the TC/VSC fully off. Even if you put sensors in your snows you have to get the dealer to reset the ECU after installing them or you will have the light. Or buy an OBD II reader that can reset the ECU for you.

Except for the colour, the car looked terrific, perfect proportions and size. Great forward and side visibility, but a HUGE blind spot, although the mirrors are big and convex to take care of that. It also sounded a lot better both inside and out when revved than you can pick up from the videos (although it was sometimes hard to tell when the Scion CUVs parked nearby were blasting their ghetto music at 150 decibels from their 1000 watt custom systems).

Shifter seemed overly notchy, but that was my only complaint. With the upgraded audio head the interior looked generally great (except for the HVAC knobs). IP way better than in photos, clear white lettering at night. IMO the fake carbon fibre looked great, and the seat fabric, while downscale, looks a lot better IRL than in photos.

they turned it onn an revved it after i left???? nOOOooOOOoooOOo

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by quik1987

They let people sit in it? I regret not going

Yes I was in the driver's seat for about 10 minutes total, did everything but steal the shift knob ... A surprising number there did not seem interested in sitting in it. I don't think the car is "ghetto" enough to strongly appeal to the crowd there for the most part, they were nearly all college-age or younger and drove cars that were riced-out to various levels. Or maybe some just can't afford it!

Originally Posted by Saibot

they turned it onn an revved it after i left???? nOOOooOOOoooOOo

Yeah they finally got the party bois to turn down the racket. Sounded GREAT. I tried to get a bit of a ride when he left but he had a partner with him so no go .

[veewonwon]

Thanks for the update, was planning to go, but got busy. Wish I was there though.

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

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Engineer told me if you put on snows without TPMS in them the tire pressure light stays on but you can still turn the TC/VSC fully off. Even if you put sensors in your snows you have to get the dealer to reset the ECU after installing them or you will have the light. Or buy an OBD II reader that can reset the ECU for you.

I've a similar TPMS on the G37s. When switched to snows, the yellow warning light stayed on steadily, it only bothered me the first minute after every tire change, then my mind thought its a pilot light thereafter. Save the trouble, and cost, to get it re-program twice a year.

The tire warning light on the FR-S is located on the speedo near the zero kph mark, I doubt it will be much of an issue. A small piece of black electrical tape may serves as a quick remedy if it becomes bothersome (continuous blinking).

... Great forward and side visibility, but a HUGE blind spot, although the mirrors are big and convex to take care of that.

That's expected on a coupe - tiny rear quarter windows with thick B & C pillars. Sitting low with a high rear deck lid does not make it easy to check the back too, try backing into a tight spot and feel blinded.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by veewonwon

Thanks for the update, was planning to go, but got busy. Wish I was there though.



I've a similar TPMS on the G37s. When switched to snows, the yellow warning light stayed on steadily, it only bothered me the first minute after every tire change, then my mind thought its a pilot light thereafter. Save the trouble, and cost, to get it re-program twice a year.

The tire warning light on the FR-S is located on the speedo near the zero kph mark, I doubt it will be much of an issue. A small piece of black electrical tape may serves as a quick remedy if it becomes bothersome (continuous blinking).

That's expected on a coupe - tiny rear quarter windows with thick B & C pillars. Sitting low with a high rear deck lid does not make it easy to check the back too, try backing into a tight spot and feel blinded.

Thanks for the info on the TPMS - very helpful. If it doesn't blink that will be great. Although these days at Canadian Tire you can get OBD readers on sale for $40, so if it turns the light off it might be worth it. Because after you swap out your snows for your OEMs the light is still going to be on.

As to visibility, I drive a coupe too, a little bigger than an FR-S though, and the rear quarter windows in it are actually useful. I was a bit shocked at how much less I saw out of the rear of the FR-S. Good thing the rear deck is so short!

[Sport-Tech]

Pics and video from the Kennedy Commons FR-S visit are now up on the web (direct link not allowed). You can find a link on scion.ca's FB page.

[Klinn]

Thanks for writing up your impressions; sounds great!

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Engineer told me if you put on snows without TPMS in them the tire pressure light stays on but you can still turn the TC/VSC fully off. Even if you put sensors in your snows you have to get the dealer to reset the ECU after installing them or you will have the light. Or buy an OBD II reader that can reset the ECU for you.

From what I've heard, TPMS are becoming mandatory in the States so more and more people are going to run into this situation. Manufacturers are going to have to come up with a better solution to handle swapping winters/summers. Perhaps design the system to recognize two sets of transmitters?

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Great forward and side visibility, but a HUGE blind spot, although the mirrors are big and convex to take care of that.

Sounds like my current summer toy. An acceptable trade-off for a sleek roof line.

[Blue FRS]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Thanks for the info on the TPMS - very helpful. If it doesn't blink that will be great. Although these days at Canadian Tire you can get OBD readers on sale for $40, so if it turns the light off it might be worth it. Because after you swap out your snows for your OEMs the light is still going to be on.

As to visibility, I drive a coupe too, a little bigger than an FR-S though, and the rear quarter windows in it are actually useful. I was a bit shocked at how much less I saw out of the rear of the FR-S. Good thing the rear deck is so short!

I have one of there OBD readers. it only lets you read the codes if you want to reset anything you have to pay for more software.