CARB certified Turbo Kits?

[KKaWing]

There is the STS turbo... it hangs where the muffler is and keeps the stock header, front pipe and the resonator of the mid pipe. Don't know about CARB but at least the cats are still there.

[TilesMeague]

Originally Posted by KKaWing

There is the STS turbo... it hangs where the muffler is and keeps the stock header, front pipe and the resonator of the mid pipe. Don't know about CARB but at least the cats are still there.

cats. lol. like your avatar.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by TilesMeague

So how easy would it be to try and get the car registered to a relative in a different state with lower emission standards?

It's not difficult, but you are still subject to CA laws if your car is in CA. If you are ticketed, you will need to pay the regular CA fines, and get it CA legal to continue driving it here. A second citation in CA will result in exponentially larger fines.

Put it this way. If you have a car from Florida, and are caught speeding (per California vehicle code) in CA, you still have to pay that speeding ticket. Getting an emissions ticket is no different.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by KKaWing

There is the STS turbo... it hangs where the muffler is and keeps the stock header, front pipe and the resonator of the mid pipe. Don't know about CARB but at least the cats are still there.

Not CARB legal, and emissions tickets are NOT pretty.

[solus]

Join the military... Register car in another state (last duty station) and get a license from there... Cops can't do anything. No carb nothing, renew registration online send to new address

[woode]

Originally Posted by solus

Join the military... Register car in another state (last duty station) and get a license from there... Cops can't do anything. No carb nothing, renew registration online send to new address

Yup! Probably the best benefit; I have my home of record as WA and license from PA, insurance wherever I'm at. Never gotta worry about all these dumb emissions, safety, CARB, road-worthy, whatever-else inspections in various states!

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by woode

Yup! Probably the best benefit

Alert the recruiters. Join the military and say fuck it to CARB.

[solus]

The best part about a WA license is that it never expires, they put MILITARY in the expiration section. So you'll never need to renew it as long as you have your military ID.

WA license + WA plate... in California = no CARB testing

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by solus

The best part about a WA license is that it never expires, they put MILITARY in the expiration section. So you'll never need to renew it as long as you have your military ID.

WA license + WA plate... in California = no CARB testing

Until you get pulled over more than once, and force you to register the car here for being a CA resident.

Not being a resident does not exempt you from CA laws.

Does being a WA resident exempt you from CA speeding or cell phone laws? Nope. It doesn't exempt you from emissions either.

It *may* get you out the first time, but after that get out of jail free, you better register locally, because the second time will result in the emissions citation AND a bunch of others.

[solus]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Until you get pulled over more than once, and force you to register the car here for being a CA resident.

Not being a resident does not exempt you from CA laws.

Does being a WA resident exempt you from CA speeding or cell phone laws? Nope. It doesn't exempt you from emissions either.

It *may* get you out the first time, but after that get out of jail free, you better register locally, because the second time will result in the emissions citation AND a bunch of others.

Not true... as a military member you are a resident of your home state where you entered the Navy as your "Home of Record". Of course you can change your home of record but very few do

I vote in WA, I pay WA taxes (which is none since they don't have state taxes) and I register my car in WA. I've live in Cali and had WA plates, license, and registration... CARB was not an issue and plates were not an issue.

They have to prove my residency... my license and registration say WA, therefore not a resident. Simply living in CA does not make a military member a resident. We have exemptions due to the nature of the military. Trust me, I don't even pay CA state taxes and I lived there for many years in the Military. They've tried to collect, but I reply back with proof of military and poof gone. Hell, I even bought my motorcycle in CA, registered it in WA and paid WA taxes and registration fee on it... from CA.

Traffic laws are not the same as residency laws....

Also,

Federal law: Section 511 of the Service Members’ Civil Relief Act,
A person shall not be deemed to have lost a residence or domicile in any state solely by reason of being absent there from in compliance with military orders. A person shall not be deemed to have acquired a residence or domicile in any other state solely by reason of being there in compliance with military orders.

This means I'm not a Cali resident

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures...r.htm#military

This means I don't have to register my car in Cali

which all equals no SMOG/CARB unless you home state/county point of registration make you.

[xwd]

You aren't understanding what Mike is saying. Being a resident of another state doesn't exempt you from the laws of the state you are driving in, regardless if your resident state has those laws or not.

As an example, a lot of states don't even issue front license plates but if I get pulled over in a state requiring a front plate, the cops there have every right to give me a ticket. I can argue I don't even have a front plate, but that doesn't matter.

CA I think is about the only state who can/will give you tickets for not complying with their emissions laws like removing cats, etc. while being pulled over. Doesn't have anything to do with passing their emissions tests. You could always tell them you are just passing through the state or something but if you get pulled over again it might not work out so well.

[solus]

Originally Posted by dwx

You aren't understanding what Mike is saying. Being a resident of another state doesn't exempt you from the laws of the state you are driving in, regardless if your resident state has those laws or not.

As an example, a lot of states don't even issue front license plates but if I get pulled over in a state requiring a front plate, the cops there have every right to give me a ticket. I can argue I don't even have a front plate, but that doesn't matter.

CA I think is about the only state who can/will give you tickets for not complying with their emissions laws like removing cats, etc. while being pulled over. Doesn't have anything to do with passing their emissions tests. You could always tell them you are just passing through the state or something but if you get pulled over again it might not work out so well.

You're right, you technically can get a ticket for ANYTHING... whether or not it holds weight is the courts decision.


I guess as long as my car isn't spewing out smoke/fumes then I don't have to worry about getting pulled over for it. Either way, I won't have to do CARB testing when I register my vehicle, so only way its an issue is at street level when pulled over. Which of course my reply at court would be non-resident car and did not require CARB testing. Yes, I could get a ticket, but it would be tossed at court as I am not required to pass California emission testing only WA emissions testing. Now, If my car doesn't even pass WA testing, then that is a problem. As for front license plates, same thing would happen... you'd get a ticket but the ticket would be tossed at court... since some states don't even give you two plates.

Also, I am just passing through, its taking my 3 years to get through, but I'm still only passing through... lol

But either way, I've never once had an issue in Cali with emissions or testing, or ticket... nothing. I've been stopped, Cop saw my Military ID, WA license, and Registration... didn't even bother. Even made comments about my exhaust (this was on my old SRT-4 though)... just my experience.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by solus

I guess as long as my car isn't spewing out smoke/fumes then I don't have to worry about getting pulled over for it. Either way, I won't have to do CARB testing when I register my vehicle, so only way its an issue is at street level when pulled over. Which of course my reply at court would be non-resident car and did not require CARB testing. Yes, I could get a ticket, but it would be tossed at court as I am not required to pass California emission testing only WA emissions testing. Now, If my car doesn't even pass WA testing, then that is a problem. As for front license plates, same thing would happen... you'd get a ticket but the ticket would be tossed at court... since some states don't even give you two plates.

Also, I am just passing through, its taking my 3 years to get through, but I'm still only passing through... lol

If you are in CA, you are required to pass CA emissions. This is why so many cars are labeled for sale as "49 state emissions certified" or "50 state emissions certified". Guess who that 50th state is.... California.

I understand that most states will toss the ticket for out of state drivers/cars. California will not; they want/need the money.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by dwx

You aren't understanding what Mike is saying. Being a resident of another state doesn't exempt you from the laws of the state you are driving in, regardless if your resident state has those laws or not.

As an example, a lot of states don't even issue front license plates but if I get pulled over in a state requiring a front plate, the cops there have every right to give me a ticket. I can argue I don't even have a front plate, but that doesn't matter.

CA I think is about the only state who can/will give you tickets for not complying with their emissions laws like removing cats, etc. while being pulled over. Doesn't have anything to do with passing their emissions tests. You could always tell them you are just passing through the state or something but if you get pulled over again it might not work out so well.

If the car is not registered in California, the state emissions do NOT apply.

If you become a permanent resident of California, you are required to get a license from california and you THEN become required to register your car in California. I believe you have either 30 or 60 days once moving to California, to surrender your old license and register any vehicles you own in your primary state of residence.

Military are EXEMPT from this requirement so long as they are in the state due to military orders, they will never be required to register in the state of california, smog their vehicles in california or be california compliant for emissions purposes.

This is the same for people who own homes in california, but whose primary state of residence is say, Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona or Nevada.

If the state finds out that they are living primarily in California, they may take exception to that, but they cannot require an out of state registered vehicle to maintain california emissions standards, so long as that vehicle is legally allowed to be registered in the state that it is currently registered in outside of california.

A vehicle that is only driven IN california or driven here the majority of the time would be required to be registered in california, except for military members here on orders.

Jaden

Military members, do NOT take any one on this forum's word for anything. Speak to your JAG officer and they will inform you as to your legal obligations..