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Old 08-21-2014, 11:40 AM   #7281
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The biggest "clutch killer" is not available torque, but slipping the clutch - especially launching from a stand still. I avoid high rpm slipping and I match-rev down shift. Since I engage my ESC above 2500 rpm, with the clutch engaged, I fully expect to get a "normal-use" life from my stock clutch.

Over the years I've owned 17 new cars - all with standard transmissions - and I've never replaced a clutch. Most of my cars were sold with 120,000 to 180,000 miles on the original clutch.

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Old 08-21-2014, 09:12 PM   #7282
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I think it will definitely come down to price point. If the TQ300 and aux charger is 2500 or less it will still be a viable upgrade. If not it will be nipping at the toes of the spd turbo, kraftwerks, avo and other traditional fi methods.
But it's still so much easier to install.
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:47 PM   #7283
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But it's still so much easier to install.
Oh without a doubt. That will always be a huge advantage to the phantom. It just comes down to what you want/expect out of it for the price.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:49 AM   #7284
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When we know more about the TQ300 I might be down to buy someone's TQ250 off them if a good price is offered =p. Honestly I don't think I'd be willing to shell out anymore than 1000 more for the benefits. Not to mention additional wait times. Prices are all speculation at this point of course.
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I just noticed. We're over half a million views!


I think there is some interest in this product.
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Congrats @Robftss and @fenton on half million views!

Looks like this is getting a little interest.. Lol

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Old 08-22-2014, 04:32 PM   #7287
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unfortunately I wouldn't put too much stock in that. If others are like me, I check the forums 30 times a day, and check this thread on every new post

but then again, at only 7,287 posts, there has to be a lot of lurkers too.
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unfortunately I wouldn't put too much stock in that. If others are like me, I check the forums 30 times a day, and check this thread on every new post

but then again, at only 7,287 posts, there has to be a lot of lurkers too.
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Hey guys! I met-up with Fenton yesterday for a little look, and a test ride in his FRS with the experimental stuff. Fenton is just as nice in person as he is online, especially if he would take an old fossil like me for ride! I have to say... His car runs very strong, even if he still needs a tune to smooth things out. The new TQ300, set-up ramps up the compressor speed (and boost) soo fast! Not that the TQ250 is slow, but you can really tell alot of boost happens quite quickly. The hardware is also noticably more "heavy duty" I'll be interested to see how Rob decides to proceed with this. I'm pretty sure this unit might close the margin on some mechanical supercharging, rival set-ups.

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I am a lurker. I was learning about upgrades, bolt ins in particular, because I too like the feeling of being pressed against the seat but don't want to void my warranty. This seems like it is not too hard to switch back to stock, I'm fact easier than most bolt ons. How does this perform without changing the header etc?
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It's fun watching this topic develop. Since I went traditional with my FI, I'm not likely to have one on this car but maybe in the future....

Then again, if you could find a way to combine the quick torque hit of the Phantom with the top end of a centrifugal super.... ;-)
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:09 PM   #7292
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It's fun watching this topic develop. Since I went traditional with my FI, I'm not likely to have one on this car but maybe in the future....

Then again, if you could find a way to combine the quick torque hit of the Phantom with the top end of a centrifugal super.... ;-)
This is already happing. Volvo, Audi, etc.. are developing smaller version of this to eliminate "turbo lag"
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:58 PM   #7293
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I am a lurker. I was learning about upgrades, bolt ins in particular, because I too like the feeling of being pressed against the seat but don't want to void my warranty. This seems like it is not too hard to switch back to stock, I'm fact easier than most bolt ons. How does this perform without changing the header etc?
Thanks for the interest and the question

I ran without the header for about a year. It performs very good without the header as well. The header gives you a little more smooth power delivery and a little more power everywhere in the rpm band.

I find the header also helps off boost with freeing up a bit more HP which is nice for daily driving.

I think the main reason to consider a header would be for a smoother powerband with more sharp lower acceleration and of course sounds

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It's fun watching this topic develop. Since I went traditional with my FI, I'm not likely to have one on this car but maybe in the future....

Then again, if you could find a way to combine the quick torque hit of the Phantom with the top end of a centrifugal super.... ;-)
Stay tuned for more progress Hopefully we will get the new TQ300 on the dyno before the end of the summer season. Im hoping for 235 on 93/94 octane with 210tq from 2800 to 4500rpm
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