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kbye · 08-21-2014, 12:40 PM

Do not use the clutch adjustment as a crutch for learning. In fact I do not recommend adjusting at all if you are still learning. You also pick up bad habits with a lower clutch engagement. People did the adjustment to make their cars feel like their old cars, but truth is, most modern MTs have a high engagement point. Drivers should adapt to the car, not the other way around.

ZionsWrath · 08-21-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by noodlebaka

Go out for late night drives so there's no one on the road when you're training yourself if you're that uncomfortable. The point is to go through the motions over and over. Drive up and down hills, through turns, etc. You'll eventually adapt.

It's like studying, but for your muscles and senses. Also more fun than school work.

This is also good. This is how I learned the basics of heel toe. I made loop of on/off ramps in my area and practiced.

billwot · 08-21-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stevesnj

Borrow a friends MT car or rent one so you don't fry your own clutch learning.

The clutch and tranny will survive just fine. I taught 3 of my daughters and my wife to drive manual trannys and the vehicles survived just fine.

_j_anthony · 08-21-2014, 01:55 PM

I meant *weeks* lol

Tcoat · 08-21-2014, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _j_anthony

I meant *weeks* lol

Figured it was a typo or something but just could not resist!

Canadian Greg · 08-21-2014, 03:49 PM

Yes, I must agree.

I do love the hydraulic assist these days.
And I don't miss my 3300 lb pressure plate in my M-21 Muncie...
Of course my left leg is pretty weak now!

jimmillion · 08-22-2014, 06:57 PM

I know everyone learns differently, but after a week of struggling with first gear starts my dad was able to teach me clutch fineness in a little over an hour.

Essentially try this:
- find steep hill in the country side or a rarely used side road.
- Starting at the bottom from a complete stop; clutch in, move 5 feet, clutch out.
- If you can do three smooth starts in a row under 2k rpm then you can go home.

** Don't cheat and use your handbrake.
** It may be helpful to have someone very patient to coach you through this.
** find a hill with good sight lines to watch for traffic.

good luck

08-21-2014, 01:55 PM	#46
_j_anthony Daily Driven Expert Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: FR-S Monogram(BLACK) Location: United States, NJ Posts: 99 Thanks: 25 Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I meant weeks lol __________________ New Jersey! Instagrams: @FT86_NJ & @_J_Anthony I Need MO' Low

08-21-2014, 03:49 PM	#48
Canadian Greg Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Black 2013 fr-s Location: Markham Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	MT Yes, I must agree. I do love the hydraulic assist these days. And I don't miss my 3300 lb pressure plate in my M-21 Muncie... Of course my left leg is pretty weak now!

08-22-2014, 06:57 PM	#49
jimmillion Power Ranger Elite Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: '13 WRB Sport-tech Location: Mississauga, Sq1 Posts: 726 Thanks: 482 Thanked 310 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know everyone learns differently, but after a week of struggling with first gear starts my dad was able to teach me clutch fineness in a little over an hour. Essentially try this: - find steep hill in the country side or a rarely used side road. - Starting at the bottom from a complete stop; clutch in, move 5 feet, clutch out. - If you can do three smooth starts in a row under 2k rpm then you can go home. Don't cheat and use your handbrake. It may be helpful to have someone very patient to coach you through this. ** find a hill with good sight lines to watch for traffic. good luck __________________ .

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08-21-2014, 12:40 PM	#43
kbye Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2014 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 460 Thanks: 64 Thanked 441 Times in 140 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Do not use the clutch adjustment as a crutch for learning. In fact I do not recommend adjusting at all if you are still learning. You also pick up bad habits with a lower clutch engagement. People did the adjustment to make their cars feel like their old cars, but truth is, most modern MTs have a high engagement point. Drivers should adapt to the car, not the other way around.

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