Muffled front pipe? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Krovi · 08-18-2014, 02:55 AM

Has anyone tried a custom catless front pipe setup with a straight-through muffler in it? I'm trying to think of ways to make my car quieter without having to ditch my beautiful Tomei 60R.

Fizz · 08-18-2014, 03:11 AM

Just use a catted front pipe. I believe a high flow catted front pipe only gives away a couple of hp against a catless front pipe....so I don't understand why you'd want to run catless and pair it with an exhaust that is already known to be on the loud side....then complain about the sound.

Krovi · 08-18-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizz

Just use a catted front pipe. I believe a high flow catted front pipe only gives away a couple of hp against a catless front pipe....so I don't understand why you'd want to run catless and pair it with an exhaust that is already known to be on the loud side....then complain about the sound.

My problem isn't with the front pipe itself, but with how loud my car is with headers, I need a front pipe with a muffler, I'm just wondering if anyone's done it before...

zc06_kisstherain · 08-18-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizz

Just use a catted front pipe. I believe a high flow catted front pipe only gives away a couple of hp against a catless front pipe....so I don't understand why you'd want to run catless and pair it with an exhaust that is already known to be on the loud side....then complain about the sound.

To tell you truth, sound doesnt reduce a lot. very minimal.
because i changed mine from catless to HF Cat.
HF+resonated pipe would be great

ATL BRZ · 08-18-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Krovi

Has anyone tried a custom catless front pipe setup with a straight-through muffler in it? I'm trying to think of ways to make my car quieter without having to ditch my beautiful Tomei 60R.

HKS offer a catless FP with two resonators

Invidia offer a catless FP with one resonator

And T1R also make one:

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Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

HF+resonated pipe would be great

I'm running a MagnaFlow high flow catted and resonated front pipe. 2.5" stainless steel. More pics here

GT86meMR2 · 08-18-2014, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

HKS offer a catless FP with two resonators

Invidia offer a catless FP with one resonator

And T1R also make one:

I'm running a MagnaFlow high flow catted and resonated front pipe. 2.5" stainless steel. More pics here

What shop can you actually find the Magnaflow Front pipe? I've tried to search but can't find it anywhere...

ATL BRZ · 08-18-2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GT86meMR2

What shop can you actually find the Magnaflow Front pipe? I've tried to search but can't find it anywhere...

It's available from a plethora of online retailers as well as Amazon, who currently have the best price on it.
I got mine from Stillen for $380 shipped back when they were running a sale.

GT86meMR2 · 08-18-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

It's available from a plethora of online retailers as well as Amazon, who currently have the best price on it.

Thanks alot! it's strange but i just couldent find it for some reason looked all over :p

GT86meMR2 · 08-18-2014, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

It's available from a plethora of online retailers as well as Amazon, who currently have the best price on it.
I got mine from Stillen for $380 shipped back when they were running a sale.

Does any of these retailers have international shipping? amazon and most of them don't unfortunately :/

ATL BRZ · 08-18-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GT86meMR2

Does any of these retailers have international shipping? amazon and most of them don't unfortunately :/

No idea, you'll have to ask around.

BlueDubbinTDI · 08-18-2014, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Krovi

Has anyone tried a custom catless front pipe setup with a straight-through muffler in it? I'm trying to think of ways to make my car quieter without having to ditch my beautiful Tomei 60R.

Don't blow alot on a resonated front pipe, unless an exhaust is properly muffled (chambered briefcase style muffler) then it's going to be loud. Straight through exhausts are what they , they can't really be fixed. Trust me, I added an 18" resonator to a 2.75" exhaust and it basically didn't change a thing.

Kotu100 · 08-18-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI

Don't blow alot on a resonated front pipe, unless an exhaust is properly muffled (chambered briefcase style muffler) then it's going to be loud. Straight through exhausts are what they , they can't really be fixed. Trust me, I added an 18" resonator to a 2.75" exhaust and it basically didn't change a thing.

Not true, look at the Tanabe Concept G, straight thru muffler and still very tame sound.

BlueDubbinTDI · 08-18-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kotu100

Not true, look at the Tanabe Concept G, straight thru muffler and still very tame sound.

I'm telling you from personal experience. Adding just a resonator (especially a tiny 6-8") won't do enough to justify the expense.

CSG David · 08-18-2014, 09:00 PM

You may want to consider selling the 60R and going with the 60S and HFC front pipe. You won't lose much power with a different catback, but you sure will lose power between HFC and catless front pipe. The difference is minor with a NA setup. It's much larger with a turbo setup.

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Fizz Senior Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 86 GT Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 249 Thanked 336 Times in 215 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just use a catted front pipe. I believe a high flow catted front pipe only gives away a couple of hp against a catless front pipe....so I don't understand why you'd want to run catless and pair it with an exhaust that is already known to be on the loud side....then complain about the sound.

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CSG David Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: California Posts: 2,109 Thanks: 537 Thanked 1,723 Times in 956 Posts Mentioned: 173 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	You may want to consider selling the 60R and going with the 60S and HFC front pipe. You won't lose much power with a different catback, but you sure will lose power between HFC and catless front pipe. The difference is minor with a NA setup. It's much larger with a turbo setup.

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