Suberman's guide on how to make the car fix his inability to drive correctly.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by litemup

Mike, a question from the noob section: I've noticed this as well but was quickly trounced in another thread for expressing appreciation of the FRS' "neutrality." (frs vs brz blah blah...)

On long sweepers where I would like to add a little throttle, I can't because it just exacerbates the condition.

Taking the most incremental approach, would it be worth the effort trying to manage this by tweaking tire pressure? I feel a skid-pad session coming this weekend.

You can, but you're subtracting grip from the axle with higher pressure. Rather, try a slightly stiffer rear sway bar. This shifts the load slightly more rearward.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Hahah, the irony.

Although I still don't agree with you that people doing favours for a 6 pack or free dinner needs to pay for vendor fees or vendors lying about designing their turbo kits when it's a knockoff should be immune from people not happy with such business ethics.

However, let's agree to disagree on that front.

You also know I didn't ban James. It's how he worded it by offering services to people. The site owner isn't going to go verify how/if he gets paid. I've installed a set of coilovers for a user here and would help others also but I have never made a post offering a service of installing them.


Getting really off topic now though


And I obviously missed the turbo debacle. Last I saw SPD said it was a Zage or whatever. Was that false? Have they been scamming? Honest questions because I really don't have time to follow all this shit, I haven't had a less than 12 hour day this week, one a 16 hour and I just finished working now.. including flying time (and working on the plane) that's a nice 17 hour day... so yeah.. not really following the board drama much I try to be as open and transparent here as possible, probably the most of any mod/admin here but all I feel like I do is defend others for enforcing the rules I'm too busy to deal with and taking shit from endless users for actions I had no part in.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You can, but you're subtracting grip from the axle with higher pressure. Rather, try a slightly stiffer rear sway bar. This shifts the load slightly more rearward.

Shifts the load? It artificially increases spring rate at the expense of suspension independence.. so yeah it'll be slighter looser but not changing any weight transfer which is how I read shifts the load.


Just saying

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

You also know I didn't ban James. It's how he worded it by offering services to people. The site owner isn't going to go verify how/if he gets paid. I've installed a set of coilovers for a user here and would help others also but I have never made a post offering a service of installing them.


Getting really off topic now though


And I obviously missed the turbo debacle. Last I saw SPD said it was a Zage or whatever. Was that false? Have they been scamming? Honest questions because I really don't have time to follow all this shit, I haven't had a less than 12 hour day this week, one a 16 hour and I just finished working now.. including flying time (and working on the plane) that's a nice 17 hour day... so yeah.. not really following the board drama much

Lol, off topic from how to make setups worst? ain't that bad I guess.

Yeah, I understand you guys can't be on top of everything.
It was initially named the SBD kit, now it is SBD selling Zage kit after all the whoopla.
They suggested that Zage also manufactured for the other mob which is why they are basically the same, and consistently replied they designed this and that when it wasn't. The main guy who was calling other trolls in their thread, opened the owner thread, then in his SBD turbo kit for sale thread disclosed he actually works for SBD.
Someone went to town on them, got banned. This is what I saw.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Lol, off topic from how to make setups worst? ain't that bad I guess.

Yeah, I understand you guys can't be on top of everything.
It was initially named the SBD kit, now it is SBD selling Zage kit after all the whoopla.
They suggested that Zage also manufactured for the other mob which is why they are basically the same, and consistently replied they designed this and that when it wasn't. The main guy who was calling other trolls in their thread, opened the owner thread, then in his SBD turbo kit for sale thread disclosed he actually works for SBD.
Someone went to town on them, got banned. This is what I saw.

Ahh sounds sketchy for sure who got banned? PM if you want instead.

[husker741]

What a fun thread. Suberman never disappoints. Just upset I missed the initial fun.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Lol, off topic from how to make setups worst? ain't that bad I guess.

Yeah, I understand you guys can't be on top of everything.
It was initially named the SBD kit, now it is SBD selling Zage kit after all the whoopla.
They suggested that Zage also manufactured for the other mob which is why they are basically the same, and consistently replied they designed this and that when it wasn't. The main guy who was calling other trolls in their thread, opened the owner thread, then in his SBD turbo kit for sale thread disclosed he actually works for SBD.
Someone went to town on them, got banned. This is what I saw.

My contribution to off topic:

I find the whole thing about "paying a fully refundable deposit to have a raffle" total BS, because that constitutes gambling.

Eh, whatever.

-alex

[krayzie]

No funny tags yet on this thread.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by mav1178

My contribution to off topic:

I find the whole thing about "paying a fully refundable deposit to have a raffle" total BS, because that constitutes gambling.

Eh, whatever.

-alex

Technically the raffle entrance was zero cost, you had to pay for the item which was refunded when you wrote the review, so really it's just being paid for a review. You would have already won the raffle to get to that point.

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by krayzie

No funny tags yet on this thread.

I have started the ball rolling.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by litemup

Mike, a question from the noob section: I've noticed this as well but was quickly trounced in another thread for expressing appreciation of the FRS' "neutrality." (frs vs brz blah blah...)

On long sweepers where I would like to add a little throttle, I can't because it just exacerbates the condition.

Taking the most incremental approach, would it be worth the effort trying to manage this by tweaking tire pressure? I feel a skid-pad session coming this weekend.

Just for clarity, are you saying that in the sweeper it pushes, or wants to oversteer?

[wparsons]

@Ubersuber , this is all you need to "fix" the handling of the car:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQRmYMlmdqM"]skip barber going faster - YouTube[/ame]


Skip to about 16 minutes to see the part on handling balance. No change needed to the car, just driver improvement.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I try to be as open and transparent here as possible, probably the most of any mod/admin here but all I feel like I do is defend others for enforcing the rules I'm too busy to deal with and taking shit from endless users for actions I had no part in.

That's BS people give you crap. You are the best Mod on here. Just ban the people that bitch. Lol

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Technically the raffle entrance was zero cost, you had to pay for the item which was refunded when you wrote the review, so really it's just being paid for a review. You would have already won the raffle to get to that point.

Winning, by the organizer's definition, would have meant the payment part as well. My point is just that it's gambling at that point.

But whatever, it happened and no one other than me complained.

-alex