GT86 vs Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.6 R

[Zozr]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I like the Gen Coupe, but I don't want to give a car company money, which continues to make 'sports cars' bigger and bigger and bigger with more power. I don't want a 4,000lb car with 400 horsepower. I want 2700lbs with 250 horsepower.

Smaller and more power please.

Lol 250 horsepower? Subtract 100 and you're more accurate about the whp on the twins.

[jebuwh]

Originally Posted by Zozr

Lol 250 horsepower? Subtract 100 and you're more accurate about the whp on the twins.

Pretty easy to make 250 whp on the twins.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by jebuwh

Pretty easy to make 250 whp on the twins.

I don't think adding forced induction counts as being "easy".

[jebuwh]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I don't think adding forced induction counts as being "easy".

Well it's definitely easier for us to increase power than making the gen coupe handle better.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by totopo

what, stylistically I can't use different turns of phrase? It was the correct one to use too. Because people were trying to say: The 86 feels fun, and handles well in terms of fun, but doesn't handle that well in terms of traction and track times. And you read it as: the 86 doesn't handle fun or fast. Which is not what people were trying to say.



Haha, so the whole point of talking about tuned cars, is again, money and rules. Again, why don't you buy a scion tc then? I mean look at that chris rado tc, doesn't it prove that it's a superior chasis!!?!?!?!?!? The whole point of the gt500 car, is I similarly don't view the griffon as a reasonable thing to look at.

So what is acceptable to you? Why is re-welding the frame for stiffness acceptable, but carving out parts of the frame for weight unaccetable? Is a roll cage for stiffness acceptable? Is changing suspension mounting points kosher? Is changing track width kosher? What kind of wheels are good (how many people on this planet are possibly going to run full racing slicks on an 86). Where do you draw the line on aero? Is any amount of aero acceptable? How about engine mods? engine swap? turbo an NA car?

Why worry about how a car performs with >100k in mods? I rather worry about how a car performs when I take it to the track.

So by your logic does this prove that the genesis is an awesome chassis?

hahaha

If you wanna compare dollars to performance, why don't you take $50,000 total to spend and start with an off the lot brand new 370...

and I'll take that same $50K and start with a brand new off the lot FRS and we can see who's performs better at ANYTHING and everything...

Jaden

p.s. hell, I won't limiit you to a 370... you take ANY RWD coupe off the lot, with the $50k...

[Zozr]

Originally Posted by jebuwh

Well it's definitely easier for us to increase power than making the gen coupe handle better.

I get what you're trying to say but I would challenge this and say no.

With the 6k it costs for a turbo I would argue you can do a lot of suspension work that can make the genesis handle really well.

I am not taking either side but a turbo is far from easy, or cheap.

[EAGLE5]

This stupid thread still going? I'm pretty sure Zozr has another account and is just a troll.

[Zozr]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

This stupid thread still going? I'm pretty sure Zozr has another account and is just a troll.

I'm pretty sure you're just a little too sensitive. This is my only account.

Can we not have an actual vs conversation without one of you butt hurt folks calling troll? What did I say that makes me a troll so far?

[blackhawkdown]

Get an STi, solves both problems. Power, check. Practicality, check. Handling, check.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by blackhawkdown

Get an STi, solves both problems. Power, check. Practicality, check. Handling, check.

RWD, nope.

Not everyone wants to drive a souped up grocery getter.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by Zozr

I'm pretty sure you're just a little too sensitive. This is my only account.

Can we not have an actual vs conversation without one of you butt hurt folks calling troll? What did I say that makes me a troll so far?

Pretty much everything you say is trolling.

[Zozr]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Pretty much everything you say is trolling.

Yeah. Debating a turbo upgrade cost vs the cost of suspension upgrades is totally off car topic trolling.

Do you even know what the word means?

[jebuwh]

Originally Posted by Zozr

Yeah. Debating a turbo upgrade cost vs the cost of suspension upgrades is totally off car topic trolling.

Do you even know what the word means?

What I meant is, I can add power to my FRS. You can't change the chassis or obesity of the gen coup which are its biggest shortcomings.

We already have the chassis, handling and lightweight, all we need is power.

You have the power, and no way to get the lightweight, great handling chassis.

Grand touring vs. Sports car.

[noobcake]

Originally Posted by blackhawkdown

Get an STi, solves both problems. Power, check. Practicality, check. Handling, check.

ugly? check.