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Tjbugs1 · 08-08-2014, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Prog

It is possible to make Bluetooth work that way. See: Kwikset Kevo.

I looked at it, didn't see anything about proximity on the website.

Prog · 08-11-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjbugs1

I looked at it, didn't see anything about proximity on the website.

You can calibrate a Kevo to not unlock if your phone is inside the door as opposed to outside the door. Kevo uses BT LE.

raptor87 · 08-12-2014, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by quality_sound

There's most definitely a passive board in there. I'm pretty sure every proximity system uses a passive setup. I have no idea if we can use that to our advantage though.

There is something about holding the fob to the start button if the battery is dead to start the car there is for sure something passive its not NFC but I can check if its RFID tomorrow at work.

quality_sound · 08-12-2014, 09:57 PM

I'd be willing to bet its RFID.

Squishy · 08-13-2014, 12:21 PM

This is more on the illegal side.

Can it be done - absolutely as thieves in Europe have been hacking RFID keyfobs for ages before it came to the US.

They use notebooks to scan and hack the RFID system ( they just connect a 10 dollar usb dongle ). You can see youtube videos of them doing it to BMW's so yes a Subaru system would be no more difficult. The problem is the software is not exactly on the legal side to use so a mobile version is possible but it is all over torrent sites. The hacking is much more rampant now with the internet.

Here is a simple old video on youtube.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOUArz3bNU"]Car thieves using technology to gain access; keyless entry to autos. - YouTube[/ame]

It is also showing up as a product they can buy and walk around with to brute force hack the "simple" RFID version we have in our keys.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxQ_iL2xPiM"]Car Thieves Using A New Device To Unlock Car Doors - YouTube[/ame]

SpeedWi · 08-13-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by quality_sound

I'd be willing to bet its RFID.

Most likely or maybe they have a zigbee network installed.

Would be cool if they did though.

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Squishy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Location: Katy, TX Posts: 177 Thanks: 22 Thanked 78 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is more on the illegal side. Can it be done - absolutely as thieves in Europe have been hacking RFID keyfobs for ages before it came to the US. They use notebooks to scan and hack the RFID system ( they just connect a 10 dollar usb dongle ). You can see youtube videos of them doing it to BMW's so yes a Subaru system would be no more difficult. The problem is the software is not exactly on the legal side to use so a mobile version is possible but it is all over torrent sites. The hacking is much more rampant now with the internet. Here is a simple old video on youtube. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOUArz3bNU"]Car thieves using technology to gain access; keyless entry to autos. - YouTube[/ame] It is also showing up as a product they can buy and walk around with to brute force hack the "simple" RFID version we have in our keys. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxQ_iL2xPiM"]Car Thieves Using A New Device To Unlock Car Doors - YouTube[/ame] __________________ Second place is just the first place loser. Dale Earnhardt

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quality_sound Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ Series.Blue Location: Cannon AFB, NM Posts: 145 Thanks: 85 Thanked 36 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd be willing to bet its RFID.

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