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Old 04-16-2012, 09:31 AM   #43
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They have an idea, but at the moment it's all "subject to change"

Not too disagree with anyone but if these cars start to arrive in 4wks how can they not know the final specs?

What can honestly be left to decide on. The dam car will come just fine out of the factory.

Surely it would be min 4wks from production/loading/travel/wait in line up of Oz coast/customs and then delivery to dealers.

Cutting it fine arent we TMCA.

Im smelling a rat.

Does anyone know the time frame (assuming all runs smoothly) from order placement to customer delivery.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:33 AM   #44
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Not too disagree with anyone but if these cars start to arrive in 4wks how can they not know the final specs?

What can honestly be left to decide on. The dam car will come just fine out of the factory.

Surely it would be min 4wks from production/loading/travel/wait in line up of Oz coast/customs and then delivery to dealers.

Cutting it fine arent we TMCA.

Im smelling a rat.

Does anyone know the time frame (assuming all runs smoothly) from order placement to customer delivery.
Don't get me wrong. I agree with you. But you know, IF they change something, they'll hide behind that excuse.
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It's got to do with Subaru I'm sure. They don't want to spill the beans early as Subaru launches later.
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Subaru must be busy rethinking their marketing strategy and rebranding with this new introduction.

There just doesn't seem to be as much hype or information about the Subaru in Australia.
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2 reasons why i think Subaru has been quiet:

1. they would want to wait until Toyota releases info and they can react accordingly;

2. their marketing budget is smaller and no point wasting fund early on.
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2 reasons why i think Subaru has been quiet:

1. they would want to wait until Toyota releases info and they can react accordingly;

2. their marketing budget is smaller and no point wasting fund early on.

Number 1 i think.

Both are being so tight neither wants too leap first.

Toyota are waiting for Subaru so they can price match accordingly.

Nor sure about Subaru but im beating Toyota are ready to go and are waiting to see what Subaru do with their model.

Personally id leap first. Better to be leading a race then playing catch up. Proactive, not reactive.
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Number 1 i think.

Both are being so tight neither wants too leap first.

Toyota are waiting for Subaru so they can price match accordingly.

Nor sure about Subaru but im beating Toyota are ready to go and are waiting to see what Subaru do with their model.

Personally id leap first. Better to be leading a race then playing catch up. Proactive, not reactive.
i agree, in the end one of them will have to leap first as the days closes in on release/order day.
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Most likely Toyota as it looks like Subaru will release later.
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Most likely Toyota as it looks like Subaru will release later.

interesting Nardi, what makes you suggest such things
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Do you really think that they are just waiting for the each other to make the first move then react?

I mean, afterall this is still a collaboration between both companies so I'm sure they must be communicating with each other especially with regard to price. I just don't think they're out there to step on each others toes per se.
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Do you really think that they are just waiting for the each other to make the first move then react?
Yes i do.

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I mean, afterall this is still a collaboration between both companies so I'm sure they must be communicating with each other especially with regard to price.
Its only a collaboration at design and manufacturing levels, other then that its game on

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I just don't think they're out there to step on each others toes per se.
No toes but just too stomp on each others head.

And i bet you wont see a single tear from each of them if the other fails.

Personally i wouldn't know but its the gist feeling i get
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Well from the point that Toyota owns a part of Subaru, it doesn't make too much sense to be going into all out war.

I think Nardi's 2nd point is more plausible.
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interesting Nardi, what makes you suggest such things
That's what I saw from some articles. Toyota launches in June, Subaru in July/August.

Toyota may owns some shares of FHI but TMCA only cares for themselves and not Subaru Aus. They won't look good if BRZ outsold the 86....(unlikely tho)
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Toyota may owns some shares of FHI but TMCA only cares for themselves and not Subaru Aus. They won't look good if BRZ outsold the 86....(unlikely tho)
That's a fair call. I'm sure the parent companies are speaking to each other and will set a competitive price for TMCA and Subaru Aus though.
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