Jackson Racing Rotrex Supercharger System Info and Discussion

[*LongFella]

Originally Posted by puma

Mike, can you guys sell the kit with a special tune from a tuner like Delicious tuning or something if we want to buy the kit but need a tune for a full exhaust?

I would like to buy a package so that there is almost no final adjustment to make.

I might be mistaken, but I thought Delicious created a 91 octane tune for this kit you can order from him. I'm not sure what else would be needed... maybe a new MAF??

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Aftermarket header = will probably a tune

Ya I had zero intention of a carb tune here no such laws anyhow.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by puma

Mike, can you guys sell the kit with a special tune from a tuner like Delicious tuning or something if we want to buy the kit but need a tune for a full exhaust?

I would like to buy a package so that there is almost no final adjustment to make.

The only tune we sell for this kit is the CARB tune by Jackson Racing. If you want a Delicious tune, you'll need to contact @DeliciousTuning or @sales@delicioustuning.com

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by OICU812

Ya I had zero intention of a carb tune here no such laws anyhow.

It's not just that it's CARB legal. Rather, it's a tune that was developed over hundreds dyno pulls and 15k+ street/track miles in conditions ranging from freezing weather in Colorado to Death Valley (HOT!) in California. In other words, it's very refined, at both partial and full throttle, and covers the entire range of conditions you may face.

It also adapts to high octane gas, for when you get the opportunity to fill up with the good stuff.

How many pulls does your tuner do when they tune your car? Is the dyno/tuner capable of doing partial throttle tuning?

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It's not just that it's CARB legal. Rather, it's a tune that was developed over hundreds dyno pulls and 15k+ street/track miles in conditions ranging from freezing weather in Colorado to Death Valley (HOT!) in California. In other words, it's very refined, at both partial and full throttle, and covers the entire range of conditions you may face.

It also adapts to high octane gas, for when you get the opportunity to fill up with the good stuff.

How many pulls does your tuner do when they tune your car? Is the dyno/tuner capable of doing partial throttle tuning?

Good question I don't have that answer as I don't have kit, nor tuner etc. I just assumed that with an aftermarket CBE and also aftermarket overpipe that a CARB tune would not be even recommended? If it is fine that makes life even easier and I'd like to know for sure.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It also adapts to high octane gas, for when you get the opportunity to fill up with the good stuff.

So IAM set to 7 and it increases towards 1 if you run higher octane because it is receiving less knock feedback with the high octane?

[wheelhaus]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It's not just that it's CARB legal. Rather, it's a tune that was developed over hundreds dyno pulls and 15k+ street/track miles in conditions ranging from freezing weather in Colorado to Death Valley (HOT!) in California. In other words, it's very refined, at both partial and full throttle, and covers the entire range of conditions you may face.

It also adapts to high octane gas, for when you get the opportunity to fill up with the good stuff.

How many pulls does your tuner do when they tune your car? Is the dyno/tuner capable of doing partial throttle tuning?

As much as I want to do to this car, in the end I find myself only executing mods that I can set and forget. I'm now a father and have a lot more on my plate so time is harder to come by. Also, this car more than any I've ever owned just makes me want to drive, not tinker. What Mike states above is the very reason I'm still planning for the JR kit with the CARB tune, and I live nowhere near CA. I'm sure some local tuners can do a great job, but with the time and energy JR has put into refinement, along with a single day of install in my garage, makes this a hands down winner for my needs. This year the bike is paid off. 2015 may be the year to go FI.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It's not just that it's CARB legal. Rather, it's a tune that was developed over hundreds dyno pulls and 15k+ street/track miles in conditions ranging from freezing weather in Colorado to Death Valley (HOT!) in California. In other words, it's very refined, at both partial and full throttle, and covers the entire range of conditions you may face.

It also adapts to high octane gas, for when you get the opportunity to fill up with the good stuff.

How many pulls does your tuner do when they tune your car? Is the dyno/tuner capable of doing partial throttle tuning?

As Mike has stated the CARB tune from Jackson is a very good tune. It is little different approach from what we have done. They are still using a blow through MAF sensor setup for proper Air/Fuel mixtures, where as we are using a pure Speed Density setup which calculates the values needed for the ECU a little differently.

We are able to make a little more power than the Jackson Racing tune (though not a whole lot) and can offer a FlexFuel tune with the kit which really makes the kit shine (a lot more power). Of course all the other RaceROM options are available too, such as Launch Control, Auto-Blip, Custom Traction Control, etc...

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

[*LongFella]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

As Mike has stated the CARB tune from Jackson is a very good tune. It is little different approach from what we have done. They are still using a blow through MAF sensor setup for proper Air/Fuel mixtures, where as we are using a pure Speed Density setup which calculates the values needed for the ECU a little differently.



We are able to make a little more power than the Jackson Racing tune (though not a whole lot) and can offer a FlexFuel tune with the kit which really makes the kit shine (a lot more power). Of course all the other RaceROM options are available too, such as Launch Control, Auto-Blip, Custom Traction Control, etc...



Cheers,

William Knose

Delicious Tuning

Out of curiosity, what level of testing took place as you were developing the tune?

I'm noob, so I'll apologize in advance for a potentially dumb question! lol

I want the corn syrup!

[OICU812]

@CSG Mike

So with as stated an aftermarket cat back as listed:

Lachute CBE W/Resonated mid pipe 2.5"
Avo high flow cat front pipe 2.5"
Avo overpipe 2.5"

Would the CARB tune work fine with this??

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by OICU812

@CSG Mike

So with as stated an aftermarket cat back as listed:

Lachute CBE W/Resonated mid pipe 2.5"
Avo high flow cat front pipe 2.5"
Avo overpipe 2.5"

Would the CARB tune work fine with this??

I'm no Mike, but any modification to the factory catalytic converter will require a retune.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by CSG David

I'm no Mike, but any modification to the factory catalytic converter will require a retune.

@CSG David

I should have mentioned I DO still have stock header however so just overpipe back has been changed.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by OICU812

@CSG David

I should have mentioned I DO still have stock header however so just overpipe back has been changed.

Can't modify the primary or secondary cat. You can change the overpipe if you want though.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by *LongFella

Out of curiosity, what level of testing took place as you were developing the tune?

I'm noob, so I'll apologize in advance for a potentially dumb question! lol

I want the corn syrup!

We have done over a year of development on this tune. We have been through about 1300 revisions to date on this tune and it is currently running on many different kits as you can see from the list on our website. Click image below.



Definitely not a dumb question and thanks for asking. This tune has been tested at multiple tracks, drag strips and dyno's around the world. It is a well proven tune that works well on just about any setup.

We should have dyno charts going up soon of before and after on the Jackson racing kit on 91 octane.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning