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Old 07-21-2014, 07:41 AM   #29
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Hey guys I work at a Toyota dealership(internet sales), the pure price "can" be negotiated.. But only if it's their only frs of that year. IE their last 2014 in stock at that time. Most dealerships are not going to risk having toyota pissed off to discount the one of three frs they have. That being said, can they discount? Yes, if you get lucky with their inventory.



Your better off negotiating the trade tho. 3k more than their first offer if it's still a valuable car


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Old 07-21-2014, 11:16 AM   #30
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I say check out your local subaru dealership's inventory online to see if they have any left over 14 Limited in the color you want. I wanted a frs but scion wouldnt budge on the price because of there "pure price" crap. Subaru gave me a 14 SWP Limited plus popular package 2 for 26,900 plus ttl. Which was about invoice without any haggeling. Shop around.
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Pure Pricing only applies to the current model year. So you can haggle a 2013 right now and 2014s once dealers get the 2015s them in stock.
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Pure Pricing only applies to the current model year. So you can haggle a 2013 right now and 2014s once dealers get the 2015s them in stock.

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Pure price only applies to CMY cars. My best advice would be to go for a 2014 model maybe even a monogram. If they don't budge on MSRP then get them to throw in some add-ons. Your other option is to get a BRZ. I could easily have gotten a BRZ Limited at the same, if not lower, price of a FR-S with my credit score but I just preferred the way the FR-S looks more.
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This.

Pure price only applies to CMY cars. My best advice would be to go for a 2014 model maybe even a monogram. If they don't budge on MSRP then get them to throw in some add-ons. Your other option is to get a BRZ. I could easily have gotten a BRZ Limited at the same, if not lower, price of a FR-S with my credit score but I just preferred the way the FR-S looks more.
I did the opposite, I was originally going to grab a 2013 FR-S, but the local Subaru dealer gave me a 2013 BRZ premium for less than invoice. So that made the choice pretty easy.
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Pure price only applies to CMY cars. My best advice would be to go for a 2014 model maybe even a monogram. If they don't budge on MSRP then get them to throw in some add-ons. Your other option is to get a BRZ. I could easily have gotten a BRZ Limited at the same, if not lower, price of a FR-S with my credit score but I just preferred the way the FR-S looks more.
This.
I had a sales manager at the Subaru dealership offer me a BRZ Limited for ~27k, but I liked the FR-S monogram more and the dealer had installed some options I wanted, so I took my monogram for 31k.

If price is your #1 concern, Subaru dealers will normally give you the best deal. But if you're really set on the FR-S stuff, look for a dealer that has 2015 FR-S on the lot so that they'll negotiate on the 2014s (if you're okay with those).
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Old 07-21-2014, 06:20 PM   #35
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Also for the FR-S don't settle unless they give you 1.9% or lower. If they say they can't then either your credit isn't that great or they're BSing you.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:56 AM   #36
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what did you pay --- if you mind me asking? i was in the same boat -- i now got a 2015 hot lava for the MSRP -- and went to a NISSAN dealership to get the car actually. SCION is crap!

with tax and everything, i want to say it was about 27ish? i could be off by a little there
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Thats what I thought. So, 2014 Raven FR-S Monogram (No add ons). MRSB is $28,155. Dealer is asking $29,500. What is the max I should pay? I was thinking $26,000 - $27,000 if I am lucky, otherwise $28K flat top price. Does that sound reasonable?
Seems like alot to me, I just bought a new 14' BRZ Limited for 25.8k 6 weeks ago.
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Pure Pricing? More like Pure Bullshit.

I negotiated my 2014 FRS from MSRP about $1000, ontop of the $1000 discount for new graduates. Asked for dealer invoice and everything. Not ONCE did they mention Pure Pricing. I went in and told them I didn't want any of that extra shit they have to offer, I just want the car, give it to me.

They didn't try to tack on any bullshit fees either, and if they did I said no, and that was that. Took about 3-4 hours, but it was DONE. This was when 2013's were still in and 2014's were floating around. No where near a Monogram or '15.
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Pure Pricing? More like Pure Bullshit.

I negotiated my 2014 FRS from MSRP about $1000, ontop of the $1000 discount for new graduates. Asked for dealer invoice and everything. Not ONCE did they mention Pure Pricing. I went in and told them I didn't want any of that extra shit they have to offer, I just want the car, give it to me.

They didn't try to tack on any bullshit fees either, and if they did I said no, and that was that. Took about 3-4 hours, but it was DONE. This was when 2013's were still in and 2014's were floating around. No where near a Monogram or '15.

How much did you end up paying for the car in total? Looking to buy a FR-S but the used ones around me are all priced around 20k-23k at that rate I might as well look for a new one. Also, what other fees would they attempt to add on?
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Wow, some of you guys are getting ripped. Paid $25,400 for my 14 BRZ Limited without any haggling. I did haggle trade in for my sti (ended up getting KBB Private Sale for it). Can't believe people are paying $28k BEFORE tax and fees. MSRP is NOT what the dealer paid, despite what they tell you. Even "Dealer Invoice" on edmunds/some fake sticker the dealership gives you is more than they paid.

Check truecar.com. Was a big eye opener for me.
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How much did you end up paying for the car in total? Looking to buy a FR-S but the used ones around me are all priced around 20k-23k at that rate I might as well look for a new one. Also, what other fees would they attempt to add on?
Some charge for vin etching, wheels locks, or some bullshit admin fee. If you EVER see admin fee ask them for the details. No "admin" fee should ever equal $500 (that's like $100/hour) for paper processing. This should be included in their job description.

Ask for dealer invoice cause it will allow you to see how much they are. Me telling you how much I paid is pointless seeing as you live in the states. Just know that you CAN negotiate. If you're looking at a base FRS model you could probably get one for $24-$25k '14 year model when the '15s roll out in full force. Before taxes and freight obviously.
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Wow, some of you guys are getting ripped. Paid $25,400 for my 14 BRZ Limited without any haggling. I did haggle trade in for my sti (ended up getting KBB Private Sale for it). Can't believe people are paying $28k BEFORE tax and fees. MSRP is NOT what the dealer paid, despite what they tell you. Even "Dealer Invoice" on edmunds/some fake sticker the dealership gives you is more than they paid.

Check truecar.com. Was a big eye opener for me.
Scion's pure pricing is a reason for this but another large reason that you see more of a discount with the BRZ is because though they list the suggested MSRP the same they sell for much cheaper because they don't want it to affect WRX sales since they would fall in about the same price range. Not to mention most prefer the FR-S front bumper over the BRZ so they're willing to pay for it.
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