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Old 07-15-2014, 08:29 PM   #15
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Nameless overpipe and front pipe combo is supposed to add about 10 horsepower. Take that how you will.

Other than that, an Open Flash Tablet will do it.
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If you mean spunk from a performance standpoint, tires for sure. I'm running and highly recommend the Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

If by spunk, you mean the fun factor, switching to an aftermarket exhaust increased the fun factor for me big time (I have a Tomei 60S). With your budget, I'd consider the Motiv Concepts front pipe and a set of JDM tips. Increase sound, a bit of power, and improved looks (the stock tips are just downright nasty). Here's some sound clips of the catted and non-catted versions on an otherwise stock exhaust:

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKcMmQQOtBA"]MOTIV Concepts Scion FR-S High Flow Catalytic Converter - YouTube[/ame]


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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAAc3wTuytM"]Motiv test pipe - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgEQhQG2TbU"]Motiv test pipe 2 - YouTube[/ame]
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Perrin 2.5" resonated catback. Looks amazing and not too loud.
I got mine for just over $700 though.
Thats a good price, do you remember where you got it from?

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If by spunk, you mean straightline speed a catback doesn't do much for HP on this platform. For HP/TQ $500-$600 to get an OpenFlashTablet tune for e85 ($550ish) and a drop-in filter, just about any brand will do ($50). That will net about 25-35 WHP and 20-25 TQ.

If you mean corner speed. New stickier tires in 215-225 width will greatly improve your cornering speed.

Do driver mod and/or these two first, then worry about everything else afterwards.
It doesn't need to be faster I just want the car to feel more... seem more... idk how else to put it just its missing something. Some engine volume would be nice... I think.

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You've already got some wise ideas (Personally I think if you want personality, a sound change is an easy way to make the car "feel" faster-- exhaust doesn't sound like a bad idea. You may want to spend a little more than $500 on an exhaust, though). I'd add basic suspension stuff to the list-- swaybars, suspension / drivetrain bushings, and a good alignment. These are all pretty cheap items that will really change the overall feel of the car through corners (sways change the balance, bushings change responsiveness, alignment can change both slightly).

For the money, suspension tweaks are probably the best thing you can do to the car to change the overall experience you get when pushing the car hard. An exhaust isn't a bad idea either though, since it changes your perception of speed and can add the personality you want. Save a little more and get a quality piece, though. Don't force yourself to choose a sound based on price.
Thanks for that. I think the current suspension is brilliant and is already as "fun" as it gets, especially with the stock tires.

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Just don't go on the UK forums saying you need some spunk LOL
LOL yaaaa I've heard it doesn't taste good.

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Seriously, I'd forget engine mods short of forced induction.

If I had $500.00 to spend I'd buy Bilsteins and fit them myself (in reality I have enough to pay someone much more skilled than I to fit them).

I bought new tires first. Knowing what I now know (that Subaru is fitting Sachs dampers to the 2015 cars) and having experienced the transformation my BRZ experienced by fitting Bilstein HD (B6) dampers and struts that's the only mod I would have done. I seriously think I could have tolerated the stock tires longer had I fitted the Bilsteins first.

Oh, yes, and as the rear Bilsteins go in cut one half inch out of the rear bump stops, or cut a bit off the soft end if you don't want to mess around with gluing bits of bump stop back together. A bit more damper travel before the car hits the bump stop would be desirable unless you want to drift regularly.

Get the alignment within spec even if you have to fit camber bolts. My rear axle is now set at 1.9 degrees negative each side with the help of a pair of Subaru factory camber bolts. The front probably won't need camber adjustment but if it does you can get camber bolts for the bottom of the strut to assist.
I don't think the suspension will make it better. I definitely do not want it any stiffer.
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If you mean spunk from a performance standpoint, tires for sure. I'm running and highly recommend the Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

If by spunk, you mean the fun factor, switching to an aftermarket exhaust increased the fun factor for me big time (I have a Tomei 60S). With your budget, I'd consider the Motiv Concepts front pipe and a set of JDM tips. Increase sound, a bit of power, and improved looks (the stock tips are just downright nasty). Here's some sound clips of the catted and non-catted versions on an otherwise stock exhaust:

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Yes fun factor is the best way of putting it. Ive gotten so many contrasting views on front pipes. However, I can not seem to find that video on Motiv's site anymore. Maybe something else was done?
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Don't underestimate the change that the OFT will make to the way the car drives.

If you keep everything else stock the OFT will greatly improve the driving feel by reducing the torque dip and improving the throttle response.
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I was just about to make a thread on this but noticed I'm looking for a similar set up. The sound in the following video is what I'm going for, however the PERRIN catted front pipe has been discontinued.

Does anyone have any videos of just an aftermarket front pipe on an otherwise stock exhaust? Will there be much of a sound difference between catted and catless front pipes?

Not trying to hijack your thread, but I think we're in the same boat.

*I'm not looking for upgraded performance, mainly just a better sound.

This might help you out.

The only problem I have with the front pipe is installation is MUCH harder than and axle back. I am completely confident that I can DIY no problem but if I don't get the results I am looking for I will be very sad and be at square 1.
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Nameless overpipe and front pipe combo is supposed to add about 10 horsepower. Take that how you will.

Other than that, an Open Flash Tablet will do it.
Which do you think will make the car more enjoyable for a DD, not track use. OFT is an incredible product and I've heard it makes the higher revs sound different but I just don't know if thats what I want.
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Which do you think will make the car more enjoyable for a DD, not track use. OFT is an incredible product and I've heard it makes the higher revs sound different but I just don't know if thats what I want.
The OFT will (most likely) void your warranty, but give you power all through the RPM range.

The pipe (which can be catted and/or resonated) will just add a little power, as seen in this post: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=163

Personally, once finances get caught up (glasses are expensive) I'm going to purchase the Nameless pipe, and my car is my DD.
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@m.wood0213 I think that the OFT is the best choice for some butt dyno fun, but if your going exhaust and don't want drone or crazy noise go with the Q300. Here is mine:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e8PDeyDJzEQ"]Invidia Rev - YouTube[/ame]

Q300 invidia catted FP and invidia OP.

Good luck with your choice!!

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Bilsteins aren't stiffer, they're better controlled.

The springs and roll bars (plus bump stops) create "stiffness". Properly engineered struts and dampers (which OEM definitely r not) control the springs to give a smooth ride and terrific handling especially transitions.
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@m.wood0213 just a heads up that just over the weekend i installed the catback Q300 and there is noticeable drone at cold idle and a tiny bit at lower rpms here and there. @Venator also has the catted front pipe and over pipe which probably eliminates that problem.

But it could also be that the drone may go away after it's broken in, idk but wanted to give you a heads up.
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@m.wood0213 just a heads up that just over the weekend i installed the catback Q300 and there is noticeable drone at cold idle and a tiny bit at lower rpms here and there. @Venator also has the catted front pipe and over pipe which probably eliminates that problem.

But it could also be that the drone may go away after it's broken in, idk but wanted to give you a heads up.

Weird, I never had any drone at all.. I wonder what's different. I did install the whole header back at once tho.
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