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peri.Laynz · 07-15-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Listen. a JDL UEL + all that other junk AND a tune is going to run you near 2.2k. That is HALF of a turbo kit that you are going to get in 3 or 4 months.

I know you don't want life choices, but I'm the kind of guy that says "Don't do that!" when i see a kid eat paint chips.

Considering my turbo + tune + built motor is going to cost around $13k that's not terrible. And the resale value on top of the line parts is still decent when I do decide to swap them out. A header with a couple track days worth of wear on it won't perform any differently than a new one.

tahdizzle · 07-15-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by peri.Laynz

Considering my turbo + tune + built motor is going to cost around $13k that's not terrible. And the resale value on top of the line parts is still decent when I do decide to swap them out. A header with a couple track days worth of wear on it won't perform any differently than a new one.

Keep on truckin'.

Can lead a horse to water as they say.

STV3 · 07-15-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by peri.Laynz

Did you have a tune done as well? Does it deal well with the torque dip?

No tune and it eliminates the tq dip

peri.Laynz · 07-15-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by STV3

No tune and it eliminates the tq dip

Interesting. I'll check into that.

husker741 · 07-15-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by peri.Laynz

Interesting. I'll check into that.

By the time it gets to your door, it'll be time for your turbo. Their lead times are pretty far off.

woode · 07-15-2014, 04:33 PM

Don't listen to these guy's who clearly don't know what they are talking about with headers being useless if you are going FI.

Aside from twin screw and centrifugal superchargers, there are several turbo kits as well that place the turbo further back in the exhaust (maintaining the header). In fact, for those types, you generally want to replace the factory catted header with a catless to ensure it doesn't break up and destroy your turbo. PTuning is the first that comes to mind, but there are at least 4-5 others.

There are also a few that offer headers that you can swap the "up pipe" from N/A to a turbo up-pipe. Probably slightly less efficient in N/A form, but you can still buy piece-by-piece this way.

husker741 · 07-15-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by woode

Don't listen to these guy's who clearly don't know what they are talking about with headers being useless if you are going FI.

Aside from twin screw and centrifugal superchargers, there are several turbo kits as well that place the turbo further back in the exhaust (maintaining the header). In fact, for those types, you generally want to replace the factory catted header with a catless to ensure it doesn't break up and destroy your turbo. PTuning is the first that comes to mind, but there are at least 4-5 others.

There are also a few that offer headers that you can swap the "up pipe" from N/A to a turbo up-pipe. Probably slightly less efficient in N/A form, but you can still buy piece-by-piece this way.

I don't think you understand what people are saying. Why buy a header right now if only a few months from now he will buy a kit that will likely have it's own manifold? Because that's what it seemed like he is doing. By saying he wants cheap because he wants to boost it, it infers that he will get rid of it once the car is boosted.

STV3 · 07-15-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741

By the time it gets to your door, it'll be time for your turbo. Their lead times are pretty far off.

lol yea this is true. I know you and I have both had our header for a bit now, so I wasn't thinking about the wait time on them.

woode · 07-15-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741

I don't think you understand what people are saying. Why buy a header right now if only a few months from now he will buy a kit that will likely have it's own manifold? Because that's what it seemed like he is doing. By saying he wants cheap because he wants to boost it, it infers that he will get rid of it once the car is boosted.

You should probably read my post again. There are quite a few kits that do not come with a header because the turbo is post-header. Therefor, a header bought now would be retained and beneficial.

As for the OP, he should give more info if he already has a specific kit in mind. Otherwise, this info is probably good for him as well.

kayoh · 07-15-2014, 05:28 PM

CamryDS · 07-15-2014, 05:34 PM

dood, who cares if he wastes his money -- it's his decision...

Here's my list so far:
JDL catless UEL
Borla UEL
FT86 speedfactory UEL (catted or non catted)
Nameless EL
open flash header (UEL)
Tsudo (ebay?) UEL
fa20club (UEL) (sucks!?)

that's all I can think of for about 1 grand or so.

life decisions are life decisions... all I can say is that (you asked for people's opinion, you're going to get more than what you asked for)

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woode Boosted Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 699 Thanks: 455 Thanked 464 Times in 246 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s)	Don't listen to these guy's who clearly don't know what they are talking about with headers being useless if you are going FI. Aside from twin screw and centrifugal superchargers, there are several turbo kits as well that place the turbo further back in the exhaust (maintaining the header). In fact, for those types, you generally want to replace the factory catted header with a catless to ensure it doesn't break up and destroy your turbo. PTuning is the first that comes to mind, but there are at least 4-5 others. There are also a few that offer headers that you can swap the "up pipe" from N/A to a turbo up-pipe. Probably slightly less efficient in N/A form, but you can still buy piece-by-piece this way. __________________ 2013 Subaru BRZ LTD 6MT DGM 2014 Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid TRG PG 2011 Honda CBR1000RR 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX PRM SSM

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CamryDS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2003 Camry Blue \| 2013 FR-S White Location: Bay Area - South Bay Posts: 1,144 Thanks: 804 Thanked 288 Times in 221 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s)	dood, who cares if he wastes his money -- it's his decision... Here's my list so far: JDL catless UEL Borla UEL FT86 speedfactory UEL (catted or non catted) Nameless EL open flash header (UEL) Tsudo (ebay?) UEL fa20club (UEL) (sucks!?) that's all I can think of for about 1 grand or so. life decisions are life decisions... all I can say is that (you asked for people's opinion, you're going to get more than what you asked for)

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