Looking for opinions on what my dealer sent me on another BRZ order. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

joshua · 04-16-2012, 09:06 PM

Hey all,

I recently had an email exchange that at one point almost convinced me to cancel my [pre]-order of the BRZ. I'll spare you from having to sift through the conversation but here are the details was setting off alarms:

Limited WRB Manual
Wheel locks - alloy wheels
Auto - dimming mirror/compass
Rear bumper underskirt
Total MSRP: $29,322

Assuming the dealer was charging MSRP on all accessories it is still off from what you get on the Subaru website. Note that as far as I understood from the conversation I had this didn't even include destination. Is it possible my dealer sent me numbers for someone that is paying well over MSRP on the BRZ or is there some figure I'm not seeing that would put this in line with what we should expect to pay? I'm already on edge about buying the BRZ since I have no idea when it will arrive and what last minute shady shit my dealer might pull... What does the BRZ hive think?

bladesamurai · 04-16-2012, 09:12 PM

You could just tell them the total cost you came up with from MSRP + destination + the cost of those accessories and say that's what you'll pay.

Guff · 04-16-2012, 09:13 PM

The options you mentioned bring the BRZ to:

$29,214 (Dest. Included)

IDK where the extra $108 came from (taxes?), but you should double check that and check if is Destination is included.

If Dest. isn't included, you dealer either got it wrong, or is charging you a markup.

aethelwulf · 04-16-2012, 09:28 PM

MSRP on dealer accessories doesn't include installation, so that extra difference may be labor.

joshua · 04-16-2012, 09:32 PM

That MSRP isn't for my order... that was for I'm assuming the first person on their list. For my order I was very explicit in that I wasn't paying over MSRP... I really don't want to email my sales person again because as we were communicating over I was getting angry and when their attitude went south I almost replied back that I wanted my deposit returned and I was going to just go buy a Genesis instead.

aethelwulf
Since the accessories are being installed at the port shouldn't pricing be the same across the country for those? I haven't seen any mention about what Subaru is charging to install those accessories...

Dave-ROR · 04-16-2012, 09:39 PM

The MSRP has varied at my dealer as well. The Subaru.com prices have been cheaper than what subarunet shows for a VON. I was assuming they were adding port installation charges or that one was simply wrong.

Since I'm not wasting money on options I can install myself later (after buying them for less anyways) my MSRP is the only one that's accurate so far.

RRnold · 04-16-2012, 09:49 PM

That sounds like MSRP for everything.
$27,495-BRZ Limited Manual Transmission:
$750-Destination

$789-Underskirt

$281-Auto dimming mirror w/adapter

=
$29,315 This is not including the wheel locks. Btw, I would skip purchasing the wheel locks from the dealer.

Buggy51 · 04-16-2012, 09:57 PM

^ note, destination charges change depending on where it gets shipped (try it on subaru's build your own BRZ). That might explain the discrepancy

Blackforge · 04-16-2012, 10:02 PM

Also, make sure the dealer chose the correct auto-dim mirror.

RRnold · 04-16-2012, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buggy51

^ note, destination charges change depending on where it gets shipped (try it on subaru's build your own BRZ). That might explain the discrepancy

By default, the destination is $695 so once you enter your location, then you will get the accurate value but they seem to already include with the MSRP. San Diego is showing $775.

A/D mirror w/compass: $165
Rear diffuser: $749
Wheel locks: $29.95
With my zip code and those features, it's coming up at 29,214.

It says in fine print that prices don't include installation so that will vary from dealership to dealership. This is prob where they'll rape you. They'll probably charge 1/2 hr of labor to install the wheel locks, 2 hrs for the diffuser and another 2 for the mirror.

OrbitalEllipses · 04-16-2012, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

By default, the destination is $695 so once you enter your location, then you will get the accurate value but they seem to already include with the MSRP. San Diego is showing $775.

A/D mirror w/compass: $165
Rear diffuser: $749
Wheel locks: $29.95
With my zip code and those features, it's coming up at 29,214.

It says in fine print that prices don't include installation so that will vary from dealership to dealership. This is prob where they'll rape you. They'll probably charge 1/2 hr of labor to install the wheel locks, 2 hrs for the diffuser and another 2 for the mirror.

I noticed dealers were charging a 10-20% premium over the actual MSRP prices of accessories on the Subaru site.

Subie · 04-16-2012, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

By default, the destination is $695 so once you enter your location, then you will get the accurate value but they seem to already include with the MSRP. San Diego is showing $775.

A/D mirror w/compass: $165
Rear diffuser: $749
Wheel locks: $29.95
With my zip code and those features, it's coming up at 29,214.

It says in fine print that prices don't include installation so that will vary from dealership to dealership. This is prob where they'll rape you. They'll probably charge 1/2 hr of labor to install the wheel locks, 2 hrs for the diffuser and another 2 for the mirror.

It's interesting that the fine print is there at all. From my experience with other brands, accessories purchased with the vehicle (i.e. on the VON) are either installed at the factory or at the port and thus the price you see already includes installation. I'll have to contact my dealer to see what information they can provide me as to the accessory installation costs.

RRnold · 04-16-2012, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie

It's interesting that the fine print is there at all. From my experience with other brands, accessories purchased with the vehicle (i.e. on the VON) are either installed at the factory or at the port and thus the price you see already includes installation. I'll have to contact my dealer to see what information they can provide me as to the accessory installation costs.

TBH, I've never seen accessories already installed, esp the exterior and small items like wheel locks. For spoilers, in this case the rear diffuser, they will more than likely send the car to their body shop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I noticed dealers were charging a 10-20% premium over the actual MSRP prices of accessories on the Subaru site.

A premium for a Premium...that's fantastic!

That rear diffuser for $750 is retarded! Give it some time for the GBs to kick in and you can get that item for a lot less.

Scoobtothenoog · 04-17-2012, 01:22 AM

Joshua, Who is your dealer? I'm in Spanish Fort, AL. I'm buying from Koby.

04-16-2012, 09:06 PM	#1
joshua Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ LT MT Location: pensacola Posts: 82 Thanks: 38 Thanked 29 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looking for opinions on what my dealer sent me on another BRZ order. Hey all, I recently had an email exchange that at one point almost convinced me to cancel my [pre]-order of the BRZ. I'll spare you from having to sift through the conversation but here are the details was setting off alarms: Limited WRB Manual Wheel locks - alloy wheels Auto - dimming mirror/compass Rear bumper underskirt Total MSRP: $29,322 Assuming the dealer was charging MSRP on all accessories it is still off from what you get on the Subaru website. Note that as far as I understood from the conversation I had this didn't even include destination. Is it possible my dealer sent me numbers for someone that is paying well over MSRP on the BRZ or is there some figure I'm not seeing that would put this in line with what we should expect to pay? I'm already on edge about buying the BRZ since I have no idea when it will arrive and what last minute shady shit my dealer might pull... What does the BRZ hive think?

04-16-2012, 09:39 PM	#6
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	The MSRP has varied at my dealer as well. The Subaru.com prices have been cheaper than what subarunet shows for a VON. I was assuming they were adding port installation charges or that one was simply wrong. Since I'm not wasting money on options I can install myself later (after buying them for less anyways) my MSRP is the only one that's accurate so far. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

04-16-2012, 09:49 PM	#7
RRnold 2 wheel member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: JZA80, 997.1, Taco Location: SoCal->NorCal Posts: 4,330 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 938 Times in 480 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That sounds like MSRP for everything. $27,495-BRZ Limited Manual Transmission: $750-Destination $789-Underskirt $281-Auto dimming mirror w/adapter = $29,315 This is not including the wheel locks. Btw, I would skip purchasing the wheel locks from the dealer. __________________

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04-16-2012, 09:12 PM	#2
bladesamurai Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 04 SV650 Location: USA Posts: 80 Thanks: 25 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You could just tell them the total cost you came up with from MSRP + destination + the cost of those accessories and say that's what you'll pay.

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aethelwulf Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 05 Sti 20g'd Location: Rochester NY Posts: 37 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	MSRP on dealer accessories doesn't include installation, so that extra difference may be labor.

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joshua Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ LT MT Location: pensacola Posts: 82 Thanks: 38 Thanked 29 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That MSRP isn't for my order... that was for I'm assuming the first person on their list. For my order I was very explicit in that I wasn't paying over MSRP... I really don't want to email my sales person again because as we were communicating over I was getting angry and when their attitude went south I almost replied back that I wanted my deposit returned and I was going to just go buy a Genesis instead. aethelwulf Since the accessories are being installed at the port shouldn't pricing be the same across the country for those? I haven't seen any mention about what Subaru is charging to install those accessories...

04-16-2012, 09:57 PM	#8
Buggy51 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: Put Put Location: CA Posts: 607 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ note, destination charges change depending on where it gets shipped (try it on subaru's build your own BRZ). That might explain the discrepancy

04-16-2012, 10:02 PM	#9
Blackforge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited - CBS Location: Alabama Posts: 45 Thanks: 2 Thanked 20 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Also, make sure the dealer chose the correct auto-dim mirror.

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Scoobtothenoog Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2011 WRX Location: Southern AL Posts: 32 Thanks: 38 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Joshua, Who is your dealer? I'm in Spanish Fort, AL. I'm buying from Koby.

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