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Old 07-02-2014, 02:57 PM   #1723
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Question Delay when stamping on the gas

I wonder how many of you experience a delay/sluggishness when you stamp on the gas pedal, rather than feeding the gas pedal.. when driving on the street and accelerating gradually car feels a lot stronger but on WOT it feels a bit sluggish.. I learned that the ECU on our cars limiting the throttle position to ~80% when on WOT but I am not sure if those things are related and/or there is a fix for that

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Old 07-02-2014, 08:27 PM   #1724
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I wonder how many of you experience a delay/sluggishness when you stamp on the gas pedal, rather than feeding the gas pedal.. when driving on the street and accelerating gradually car feels a lot stronger but on WOT it feels a bit sluggish.. I learned that the ECU on our cars limiting the throttle position to ~80% when on WOT but I am not sure if those things are related and/or there is a fix for that

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the delay your talking about is it wot-release-then wot again?
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:10 AM   #1725
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I wonder how many of you experience a delay/sluggishness when you stamp on the gas pedal, rather than feeding the gas pedal.. when driving on the street and accelerating gradually car feels a lot stronger but on WOT it feels a bit sluggish.. I learned that the ECU on our cars limiting the throttle position to ~80% when on WOT but I am not sure if those things are related and/or there is a fix for that

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86% on throttle is normal. It is 100%. I think the engineers were just trying to be funny. Are you guys stuck with 91 octane in Seattle? I was just having a discussion earlier today about how much timing needs to be pulled when on 91 octane.
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the delay your talking about is it wot-release-then wot again?
nope, it's the difference between stamping on gas (WOT) and squeezing the gas pedal.. the second option feels faster

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86% on throttle is normal. It is 100%. I think the engineers were just trying to be funny. Are you guys stuck with 91 octane in Seattle? I was just having a discussion earlier today about how much timing needs to be pulled when on 91 octane.
we use 92 octane here and TP is 82%
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Wow I just got beat by a frs with headers and exhaust. 3rd gear pull onto the highway. Wtf!!


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Old 07-03-2014, 01:41 PM   #1728
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and you didn't notice any bottle in the FRS' trunk (j/k)

that doesn't sound right.. Did you floor it? Do you notice the thing that I mentioned above? Do you have a dyno sheet?
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:06 PM   #1733
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Delicious tune does not get happy under 2.5k when trying to rev match. Lots of popping and sluggishness.
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and you didn't notice any bottle in the FRS' trunk (j/k)

that doesn't sound right.. Did you floor it? Do you notice the thing that I mentioned above? Do you have a dyno sheet?
def no bottle its my friends car. all bolt on mods, no tune.

and i do know what ur talking about glamcem. once i get my headers and the cogged pulleys installed, im gonna get a tune from moto-mike. and hope for the best.
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Delicious tune does not get happy under 2.5k when trying to rev match. Lots of popping and sluggishness.
I don't know about popping but the sluggishness should be the supercharger parasitic loss/load since the 2500 rpm looks like the break even point.. it takes power to make power so it will never feel like NA until a certain point
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def no bottle its my friends car. all bolt on mods, no tune.

and i do know what ur talking about glamcem. once i get my headers and the cogged pulleys installed, im gonna get a tune from moto-mike. and hope for the best.
so you don't have any tune on your car now or just the OTS map?
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