New here, Few questions about some mods.

[Dylanacessna]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

I think you should try all this on a cheaper car first... Say a used Miata for $1000. You need to learn about everything yoruself before jumping in the deep end.

Car mods are 95% research, 5% execution, and Rocket Bunny body kits and turbo chargers on a non-turbo car are indeed the deep end. You didn't even list brakes or suspension work, or upgrading your drive train to compensate for when things start breaking with the extra power.

The BEST way to mod a car is one piece at a time, find a problem and solve it and keep going from there... You can't plan ahead for when you find out you hate driving your car cause you did so much stuff to it and it suddenly drives like crap, its a step by step process.

Your definitely right. I should try this on a cheaper car. I know that :/ Im just extremely impatient. Ive been waiting too long to get myself a car lol ive been saving up all this cash for so long. But im definitely not jumping into the deep end without some water wings lol I have someone to kinda watch over my shoulder and help me out with the mods. Im by no means done with my research this is just part of it. Gathering information from you guys.

" You didn't even list brakes or suspension work, or upgrading your drive train to compensate for when things start breaking with the extra power."

THIS ^
Your absolutely right. One thing i know little about right now is the effect that the extra power will have on other parts. The turbo is actually towards the end of my to do list for this exact reason. Gives me time to do more research and learn more before taking that step. Id hate to throw a turbo in, go straight to the track, floor it, and blow the shit to pieces lol Thank you for your kind advice

[Chazbo]

You are lucky I re-read my post before sending. That is all. Carry on with the spending of money on a futile effort of rattles and disappointment in your near future. Try not to get too defensive when others question your grandiose ideas whilst pimping a car you do not currently own.

[Fastbrew]

You aren't going to get it all done at once. I mean you could, but why rush?

Enjoy the process and use it as a learning experience. Talk to vendors. Drive your car. Meet people. Do your research. Educate yourself. Build the car from the bottom up. Get it ready for more HP.

It doesn't take too long and it is the equivalent of automotive foreplay.

Or - rush right in and shoot your wad.

Up to you - your ride/experience.

I believe you will find greater satisfaction by pacing yourself. Even if you already know exactly what you want and have 10-20K extra cash on hand.

Also - do some of the work yourself. Even if it is throwing a few odds and ends on. But at least pick 1 project that stretches your knowledge.

Have fun!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Dylanacessna

When it comes to the power I just know i want more than what the car has already, from what ive researched it seems like the turbo is plenty for me. I know brand name parts arent a priority for me but i dont want crap that will fall apart. If its reliable and isnt overpriced its good to me. I know some of how the turbo is set up. Not 100% of course because i havent actually done it. Just have information from what ive read and seen. Im not sure why the Greddy is on the intercooler. Was kinda looking for information on that. thats why i asked about it but i actually just found this so i guess that sums that up.

http://www.shopgreddy.com/intercoole...o-stencil.html

I dont plan on drifting and racing all over town guys. Ill probably just take it to the track now and then for fun with my friends and take it to the local car clubs and shows. Nothing serious. But you are right in saying that its more of a shopping list. It does seem that way and i have a bad habit of doing things in that fashion. I asked the questions here because, maybe its just me but, its not easy to find the exact information im looking for. If anyone knows exactly where i can find what im looking for or the answers to my questions it would be the people here. Instead of browsing the web going to hundreds of websites and watching hundreds of videos, asking BRZ owners seems to be the smartest thing i can do. Im a hands on learner. Having the car and having the parts with me in the shop, and having a person with me who knows what to do, ill learn faster than web surfing i can guarantee it. There isnt really a place i can just go to see people who already have this stuff. Its either surfing the web or hands on. Those are my options lol Im just trying to find out what i need to know, and what fits, what works, whats best, before i start my hands on learning experience.

If you don't know where to learn, or where to start, why do you have such a specific laundry list of mods you want to do?

Seriously, take this as advice:

Drive the car first.

Don't assume you know everything.

And after that, if you truly feel you need more power, want a flashier kit to make the car look better, bigger wheels, blah blah blah... then go mod away.

Until then, take your $20k and go buy some GoPro stock. If you had done that in the last 48 hours you would've made 20%+ on your investment while complaining about your nonexistent car.

-alex

[Tjbugs1]

Originally Posted by Dylanacessna

Ill try to explain this again lol I know the information is on the internet, spread out all over the place. ll i am using the internet to find the information im looking for, by asking others on it. The internet can be used for more than just reading and watching videos. Im connecting with others who have the information via the web. Which, is a faster, smarter way. Also, im not building a car, im adding to one. Huge difference. The create the solution yourself idea is stupid for someone with little experience. Maybe if i knew tons about cars and mods then yeah. But doing that at this point is just the dumbest thing ever. You dont just try and fix random shit yourself when you dont know what your doing. Once more ill say this... IM NOT ASKING ANY OF YOU PEOPLE TO BUILD MY FUCKING CAR! Jesus Christ. Im trying to gather information from people before I do shit myself. I dont know why people cant wrap their heads around that.

Guy, you seem to not understand what is being told to you. You keep saying that you don't want anyone to build your car yet clearly don't understand what it is you are looking for. It sounds like you want a car that looks good and goes fast. There are lots of cars that meet that definition, this car really isn't one of them.

Everyone here wants to help you learn about this car and how to work on/mod cars in general. To do that you first need an understanding of the inner workings of the topics you laid out. You need to research first before you just start talking about slapping parts on. You need to understand that if you do A then B, C and D will happen.

It's good that you have a friend with a shop that can help you but working on cars is much MUCH more than just knowing how to install bits and change fluids.

You can't write a novel before you know how to read.

[Dylanacessna]

Originally Posted by mav1178

If you don't know where to learn, or where to start, why do you have such a specific laundry list of mods you want to do?

Seriously, take this as advice:

Drive the car first.

Don't assume you know everything.

And after that, if you truly feel you need more power, want a flashier kit to make the car look better, bigger wheels, blah blah blah... then go mod away.

Until then, take your $20k and go buy some GoPro stock. If you had done that in the last 48 hours you would've made 20%+ on your investment while complaining about your nonexistent car.

-alex

This isn't a "hey, I'm doing this in a week" post. This is really just part of my research. I had a few questions about some specific mods im interested in. I figured the people with the answers would be here. Fastest way to get the info is from others with experience IMO. I will take your advice and drive the car some more after I buy it but I do have quite a bit of time logged already.

Originally Posted by Tjbugs1

Guy, you seem to not understand what is being told to you. You keep saying that you don't want anyone to build your car yet clearly don't understand what it is you are looking for. It sounds like you want a car that looks good and goes fast. There are lots of cars that meet that definition, this car really isn't one of them.

Everyone here wants to help you learn about this car and how to work on/mod cars in general. To do that you first need an understanding of the inner workings of the topics you laid out. You need to research first before you just start talking about slapping parts on. You need to understand that if you do A then B, C and D will happen.

It's good that you have a friend with a shop that can help you but working on cars is much MUCH more than just knowing how to install bits and change fluids.

You can't write a novel before you know how to read.

Makes a lot of sense and isn't written in a ****ish manner. Thank you. But I don't feel like EVERYONE here wants to help lol I feel like some of these people have a "were an elite few" mentality. As soon as I mention I'm new they're like, "your not ready for the big leagues bro!" But will be the first ones to post "awesome! Very nice!" When I start showing pictures of the progress. I dont, by any means thing I know everything or am ready to dive right in to these mods. I'm just trying to get some answers to these questions I have floating around in my head.

[G-Man]

there is so much information on these forums alone it is kind of crazy. But if you have a friend that knows these things get with him first before buying tons of parts. Your first post made it sound like "I'm buying a new car and within a month I want it fully modded give me a list of parts to buy"

Few more small things, I want to install different seats, a harness bar, get it painted, new steering wheel, wheels, and tires. So if you know great products that fit and are a great price and work well please share. Try to keep them White or Black please (except the wheels, i like some of the colored ones) because i don't know what the exterior color will be and i want the inside to match.

that list alone would be so huge and just full of arguments and people raging about "that's not worth the money" or "that is a cheap knockoff part". Hell look at the rota thread that is pages and pages of QQ and just one of the brands of one item on your list.

If I were you I would look at the members journals just to see what people are doing to their cars, most people post their mod list. find things you like, do a search on here, find the thread about that part and see what everyone says about it. There is no way to say "here are the parts you want for this chassis", it's too new and things keep changing, and people have different ideas on what a part should cost.

also if you are planning all of this, it *MIGHT* be worth just looking at some of the people selling their RB car, price/part it will be much cheaper but it is of unknown install quality.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Dylanacessna

This isn't a "hey, I'm doing this in a week" post. This is really just part of my research. I had a few questions about some specific mods im interested in. I figured the people with the answers would be here. Fastest way to get the info is from others with experience IMO. I will take your advice and drive the car some more after I buy it but I do have quite a bit of time logged already.

If it isn't, you sure need to work on your presentation skills... because judging by the posts in this thread, I'm not the only one who thinks you are trying to do this all at once.

Again, you need to go back to the drawing board.

Turbo kit >> wheels >> suspension >> tuning >> bottomless pit
RB kit >> wheels >> suspension >> power >> turbo >> tuning >> bottomless pit

There's so many ways this story can be drawn up in your mind...

And really? Seat + harness bar for street use?

You can space it out over decades, and my reply would still be the same... set goals, broad objectives, then move to details. The same concept applies in strategy, sales, planning, job interviews, and everything else in life.

-alex

[MrBlaze-65]

It kind of seems like you would be happier in a slightly used sti or evo. It doesn't seem that you care about the warranty, you want power, you want a car that's going to be simple and more straightforward with the work needed to reach goal a or b. You mention a local drag strip, I don't hear much about autocross or track days from you so precise handling and light chassis don't seem to be of much use to you. I honestly think you got the wrong car in mind here. Before I bought my BRZ I was looking at the 2015 WRX, STI, Mustang GT, and Focus ST. The BRZ was actually on the bottom of my list, but I drove it and loved the handling and realized I don't care about the power or the back seat spacing (no kids here) and I liked the simplicity of the car. Seriously I drove the WRX right after and it was faster, but so boring at speed. The rear seats were huge it made me feel wasteful. I've owned 2 turbo cars and I have a project car/mr2 that puts stock sti's to shame but it's not very economical or reliable. Basically to go back to my point, I don't think you want a BRZ. I think you just like the way a few of them look like when you see them online or something. If you're saving money for something you want to enjoy and learn a bit with then I think you'll be happier with a different car honestly.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Dylanacessna

Ill try to explain this again lol I know the information is on the internet, spread out all over the place. ll i am using the internet to find the information im looking for, by asking others on it. The internet can be used for more than just reading and watching videos. Im connecting with others who have the information via the web. Which, is a faster, smarter way.

Is there something you consider yourself well versed in, an expert? If not, skip my post, if so keep reading.

Did you get that way by getting the answers handed to you or did you spend hundreds of hours studying, critically thinking about, and possibly experimenting? I don't care if it's Super Smash Brothers or a musical instrument or multivariable calculus, if you've been through this at all you know that no single FAQ can possibly cover a newbie to the topic.

Now think about that subject you're an expert in, imagine a newbie asking you to condense hundreds, even thousands of hours of knowledge into a couple thousand words that can be read in under 5 minutes, it's not only next to impossible but nearly offensive.

Originally Posted by Dylanacessna

Im just extremely impatient.

I don't think you needed to state that.

Do the research, ask the right questions in the right threads after reading them thoroughly you'll get a much nicer response and much better support from the community there are very patient and knowledgeable members here, coming in and saying 'I want it now' is not the way to win them over.