turbo frs/brz or 2015 wrx/sti???

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

You're crazy if you think that looks good. It looks like they've tried to join the WRX to the standard fleet line of cars like the Camry, Accord, etc. Subaru was always about those bubbly looking unrefined edges. I thought the prior generations looked much more aggressive. Now that the hatch is gone... kinda sucks. an FA20DIT hatch would be sick.

Bro I guess it all comes down to personal preference right? But I gotta agree with u when it comes to the hatch it would be hella sexy!!!

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

86 vs a wrx?

86.

Umm why? And it's turbo 86 vs wrx by the way

[jflogerzi]

If you looking for just a bit more power, there is the safe and fairly cheap FI setup in the ESC. Gobs of low end torque decent top end power. Super easy to install. Might be worth a look.

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

FRS/BRZ turns heads. WRX won't.

FRS/BRZ is a true sports car. WRX/STI is a sporty sedan.

If you can afford it, buy a practical vehicle (AWD, Haul shit, transport people etc) and a fun vehicle. If you try to buy a car that does both, they do both "okay".

Very true thanks for ur input! But I hear the frs handles better but the sti has that real sports car feel

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by jc1993

Umm why? And it's turbo 86 vs wrx by the way

An 86 is a drivers car, the wrx no matter how sporty is still a sports sedan. The brz is lightweight, nimble, certain turbo kits exemplify the cars lack of power without upsetting much of the car's balance. I haven't driven the new wrx but I'd be hard pressed to say you feel the road more in the 2015 wrx more than the brz.

A turbo brz will have room to grow power wise, anywhere from 260ish whp to built motor limits E85 and a buttload of boost. While that may be applicable to the wrx as well, the compression in this motor helps with response in non boost acceleration.

Not to mention the brz looks amazing.
The wrx looks like a corolla with quad exhaust.

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy919

"pay to play" is the saying there. A lot of people have run turbos on there twins for thousands of miles no problem. Unfortunately there are less fortunate others out there that got blown up earlier. My JDL kit should come in pretty soon, with supporting mods and a conservative/GOOD tune (nothing stupid aggressive) I dont see a reason why things would go boom. Just dont abuse the ***** out of it

I got $$$$ to either trade in or turbo my brz/frs. The thing with the frs/brz is its gonna be my daily and very concerned on heating issues with this vehicle on boost! On top of that u would probably end up spending more money on a reliable boosted frs than just purchasing a wrx..

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by jc1993

I got $$$$ to either trade in or turbo my brz/frs. The thing with the frs/brz is its gonna be my daily and very concerned on heating issues with this vehicle on boost! On top of that u would probably end up spending more money on a reliable boosted frs than just purchasing a wrx..

Define $$$$. There are reliable ways to boost this motor. It's helpful to read some of the stickies, and search about cooling fixes. There's loads of threads.

The wrx probably costs more to insure, so either buy the wrx and spend more on insurance or turbo your frs and add lil' trinkets every so often. A lot of ppl can't really shake the modding bug...

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

An 86 is a drivers car, the wrx no matter how sporty is still a sports sedan. The brz is lightweight, nimble, certain turbo kits exemplify the cars lack of power without upsetting much of the car's balance. I haven't driven the new wrx but I'd be hard pressed to say you feel the road more in the 2015 wrx more than the brz.

A turbo brz will have room to grow power wise, anywhere from 260ish whp to built motor limits E85 and a buttload of boost. While that may be applicable to the wrx as well, the compression in this motor helps with response in non boost acceleration.

Not to mention the brz looks amazing.
The wrx looks like a corolla with quad exhaust.

Well said man but to be honest my ideal "divers car" would probably need a bit luxury interior wise and a bit of features.. yes hands down brz is drop dead sexy and handles extremely well but I honestly think a driver will feel more comfortable in a wrx

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Define $$$$. There are reliable ways to boost this motor. It's helpful to read some of the stickies, and search about cooling fixes. There's loads of threads.

The wrx probably costs more to insure, so either buy the wrx and spend more on insurance or turbo your frs and add lil' trinkets every so often. A lot of ppl can't really shake the modding bug...

I'm not gonna say the exact figures lol but I can go on fbm and purchase their stage 1 premium package.. and never really thought about insurance! And thanks for the suggestion but I spend numerous hours here and still read about people having heating issues or blown engines

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by jc1993

I'm not gonna say the exact figures lol but I can go on fbm and purchase their stage 1 premium package.. and never really thought about insurance! And thanks for the suggestion but I spend numerous hours here and still read about people having heating issues or blown engines

Then you should also realise that a vented hood, upgraded radiator and oil cooler will make you set. Most of the cooling temps are issues on the track. Ask @King Tut about his FBM kit and his cooling setup.

Other things like an AOS or larger oil pan is not nessecary, but helpful.

Another thing, there was a mighty car mod video about painting your intercooler black which lead to lower temps at a standstill.

[Vten]

turbo the brz for sure!


I have the 2015sti, it's nice and stuff, but still drive like a sedan.

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Then you should also realise that a vented hood, upgraded radiator and oil cooler will make you set. Most of the cooling temps are issues on the track. Ask @King Tut about his FBM kit and his cooling setup.

Other things like an AOS or larger oil pan is not nessecary, but helpful.

Another thing, there was a mighty car mod video about painting your intercooler black which lead to lower temps at a standstill.

Ha thanks bro really appreciate the info do u currently have a turbo twin?

[YMAA]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

The wrx probably costs more to insure, so either buy the wrx and spend more on insurance or turbo your frs and add lil' trinkets every so often. A lot of ppl can't really shake the modding bug...

Many insurance companies don't go by HP numbers but by engine displacement. Now that the WRX uses a 2.0L FA20DIT I wouldn't be surprised if the BRZ is more expensive to insure since it has two doors. Hell, when I was cross-shopping the 2013 BRZ and WRX hatch the BRZ was already a few bucks more per year. But, as with all things insurance YMMV.

OP, unless you feel comfortable dealing with the hassle of FI on a motor not designed for boost I would just go with a boosted car from the factory.

The pros for the BRZ for me are the seating position and overall sports car feel. The (stock) WRX was faster, no question, but the BRZ feels fast all the time whereas the WRX only felt fast when I was driving fast. Only you can decide which is worth more to you.

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by Vten

turbo the brz for sure!


I have the 2015sti, it's nice and stuff, but still drive like a sedan.

Omg I envy u so bad!!!!!!! Thanks for ur feedback. Plz tell me thou how much u like ur wrx sti??! Do u have upgraded audio?