Scion dealers allowed mark up?

[WhiteGDB]

And it continues ........

[Kearny Mesa Scion]

If you don't want too worry about mark-ups find out which Scion dealer in your area sells the most, because the dealers that doesn't do well with Scion will mark-up the price of the FR-S with accessories. Meaning the low volume Scion dealers will probably get one or two FRS for the entire month depending on Build Book and Allocations, so they will try to maximize the profit on that one FRS they get.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by WhiteGDB

And it continues ........

Not really its much of a debate any longer. Even Jack Hollis said "Dealers are free to set their own prices, but they must sell for their advertised and posted price" (paraphrased, but he said it multiple times when asked)

It does make the process easier, at least with Scion you can Internet shop between dealers and know that what you see is the price they'll sell it for as opposed to the negotiating starting point which makes Internet shopping useless IMHO.

[WhiteGDB]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Not really its much of a debate any longer. Even Jack Hollis said "Dealers are free to set their own prices, but they must sell for their advertised and posted price" (paraphrased, but he said it multiple times when asked)

It does make the process easier, at least with Scion you can Internet shop between dealers and know that what you see is the price they'll sell it for as opposed to the negotiating starting point which makes Internet shopping useless IMHO.

We didn't need Jack Hollis to define pure pricing for us. It was defined early on the first page and in multiple older threads, yet people still question it even as late as yesterday and people will continue to question it.

[Jeff Lange]

I think the biggest issue is what was talked about earlier in that the demand wasn't always there for previous Scion models, so Pure Price usually meant MSRP. Honestly, as I am not in the USA and have never bought a Scion in the USA, I don't have enough personal experience to comment on it any further, but it seems to me like Pure Price is kind of crap, it basically just means no negotiation, what you see is what you pay, but that really only benefits the dealership in most cases, IMO.

I mean sure it's a simpler selling strategy, and customers may not be as confused by all the negotiation and pricing, etc., but it closes a lot of doors on savings for the customer as well.

Jeff

[Spd229]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

I think the biggest issue is what was talked about earlier in that the demand wasn't always there for previous Scion models, so Pure Price usually meant MSRP. Honestly, as I am not in the USA and have never bought a Scion in the USA, I don't have enough personal experience to comment on it any further, but it seems to me like Pure Price is kind of crap, lol.

Jeff

That's what I've gotten out of it.

[russv]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Not really its much of a debate any longer. Even Jack Hollis said "Dealers are free to set their own prices, but they must sell for their advertised and posted price" (paraphrased, but he said it multiple times when asked)

It does make the process easier, at least with Scion you can Internet shop between dealers and know that what you see is the price they'll sell it for as opposed to the negotiating starting point which makes Internet shopping useless IMHO.

Being a "First 86'er I would think that we would get it at MSRP and no more because they can't advertise the car as it has already been promised to us, and the posted price will be the MSRP. Maybe I'm being naive. I think subsequent buyers may have more of a problem with "market adjustment"

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by russv

Being a "First 86'er I would think that we would get it at MSRP and no more because they can't advertise the car as it has already been promised to us, and the posted price will be the MSRP. Maybe I'm being naive. I think subsequent buyers may have more of a problem with "market adjustment"

No, I agree with that. I have no intention of paying over MSRP for the car. I think most of the conversation was about those on waiting lists.

[luxmn]

My dealer explicitly told me the car will be sold to me at MSRP. I think you can threaten to have the car shipped to another dealer (assuming you live nearby multiple ones) if they want to add a markup on top. I'm sure they make good money at MSRP, 15% profit built in is my guess.

[BadCompany235]

Originally Posted by Kearny Mesa Scion

It depends on the dealer. One, they can sell is as is from the factory to the dealer (MSRP). Two, they can accessorize it to the gills and sell it for the price posted. Three, they can mark it up (market value adjustment) with no accessories and sell every FR-S for that price.

Us, we will sell it as is from the factory to the dealer with no mark ups or accessories.

so you'll be selling at just over dealer cost or at MSRP?

[russv]

I just spoke with my dealer who contacted me to confirm color and transmission (I'm a 1st 86'er) and he stated that he will be selling me the car at MSRP (he said he wouldn't do the "market adjustment to me). But...he said all subsequent buyers would be paying the market price. Good luck to the rest of you. Also said the car would be in first or second week of May.