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Old 06-12-2014, 08:49 PM   #1
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BRZ and the WRX everyday driver video

hey guys, this is my BRZ being compared with the WRX. Enjoy!
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkWyyY718AM"]Subaru WRX Review: better than the BRZ (FRS, GT86)? -- Everyday Driver - YouTube[/ame]
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:48 PM   #2
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Good review. I sat in a new WRX recently and the interior is a big step up from previous versions.

The new WRX is a great bargain for the money and I'd buy one if practicality was a concern, but I agree with their conclusion: if you simply want the better driver's car and don't care about much else, the BRZ is the clear choice.
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:07 PM   #3
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I really like Everyday Driver reviews, they do a good job at giving pro's and cons. The FRS/BRZ track comparison and FRS/S2000/Lotus Elise comparison are a great watch.

I'm fine with the twins how they are powered though, doesn't need a turbo, and highly disagree that you can't have fun and enjoy the car on normal city roads, your daily commute, or stuck in traffic. I balance and rotate my FRS daily having a blast at legal speeds, especially since I went with a 205/45-17 tire setup.

Edit: actually they have two different triple car comparo reviews, FRS/RX8/S2000 and FRS/Genesis/Elise...
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:49 PM   #4
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I really like Everyday Driver reviews, they do a good job at giving pro's and cons. The FRS/BRZ track comparison and FRS/S2000/Lotus Elise comparison are a great watch.

I'm fine with the twins how they are powered though, doesn't need a turbo, and highly disagree that you can't have fun and enjoy the car on normal city roads, your daily commute, or stuck in traffic. I balance and rotate my FRS daily having a blast at legal speeds, especially since I went with a 205/45-17 tire setup.

Edit: actually they have two different triple car comparo reviews, FRS/RX8/S2000 and FRS/Genesis/Elise...
I only watched bits and pieces of the video and I did hit the part where they said the car was "mundane" to drive in city roads or stuck in traffic.

What car is fun to drive stuck in traffic, am I missing something here . Same goes for city streets with lots of stop lights.
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Having owned the exact cars, these guys were spot on. BRZ is the better drivers car by a hair, and more fun to drive around some twisty roads. WRX is much more practical, a lot faster, and is a solid drivers car.

I wish I could own both
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decent review. Just so much content and to much jumping around. I could see myself owning both cars
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Cool vid. Pretty enjoyable comparison. I like how they request the wrx's turbo engine be put into the BRZ like all of us want. haha.
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I`m gonna get flamed for saying this but, I kind of like the fact that the twins dont have a turbo. it takes a certain person to choose chassis balance over power, and makes the owners truly unique.

If I had to own only one car, WRX makes a lot of sense since it is a very good all around car. however, I bought the BRZ thinking that I will also buy a 2nd car that is only meant for comfort and long distance travels. by separating the two means you get an absolutely uncompromising character in a car. For example, an M3 is a great all around, daily sports car, but it gives up so much in the name of comfort and luxury features vs a car like an elise. that is why, to me, a wrx is a good "sporty" car, but a BRZ is a true "sports" car. both are perfectly fine in their own ways, it`s just about what you need/prefer in a car.

oh, and power... I can ALWAYS add more power on the BRZ, but the WRX will ALWAYS have the engine in front of the front axle. 
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Last summer I was || this close to getting the (2013) WRX I'd wanted for years but ended up in the BRZ for the following reasons:

  • The BRZ has by far the better chassis and suspension
  • Better gas mileage
  • 99% of my driving is just me and a backpack going to work, so most of the time I don't need 4 seats
  • The 2015 WRX would eventually exist and blow the previous generation away
The BRZ is a better drivers car than the previous WRXs, and both myself and my 2014 WRX-owning friend agree after we swapped cars for a bit. I will say after driving his WRX in traffic that the extra torque from the turbo would be helpful but it's not required. The BRZ keeps up with most other cars on the road, at least around here.

If I could have waited a year to replace my Legacy I'd probably be in a 2015 WRX right now. But I was spending about as much in maintenance per month as I would in payments on a new car so it didn't make financial sense to wait. And I didn't want to get a 2013 WRX only to miss out on the 2015 changes - many of which are inspired by the BRZ. A more BRZ-like WRX was exactly what I wanted and I'm glad Subaru finally delivered that...but a year earlier would have been much better timing for me.
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Is the price differential non-existent in the US between the two?

The BRZ and WRX in Canada (Ontario) are separated by $2700 which is just a shade under 10% (base vs. base model). 10% isn't chump change.

If I were looking for a daily driver with a hugely fun aspect, the WRX would be it but since I am looking for a car with fun first, DD'ing duties: don't care for, the BRZ is looking like the winner (or something equivalent).

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Is the price differential non-existent in the US between the two?

The BRZ and WRX in Canada (Ontario) are separated by $2700 which is just a shade under 10% (base vs. base model). 10% isn't chump change.

If I were looking for a daily driver with a hugely fun aspect, the WRX would be it but since I am looking for a car with fun first, DD'ing duties: don't care for, the BRZ is looking like the winner (or something equivalent).

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I thought their prices were a little off. 2015 WRX base price is $27,070 (MSRP).

MSRP on a base 2014 BRZ is $26,390.

Base to base, the BRZ is cheaper and the FR-S is even cheaper at $25,455 MSRP.

They seemed to be comparing a Limited BRZ with some mods to a base WRX..

Also, they said the price went down for the 2015 WRX vs the 2014 WRX and they are wrong. Base and Limited are more, I believe the Premium is either cheaper for 2015 or the same price.
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Thoroughly enjoyed the video with all the pros and cons of each vehicle.
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They make the perfect point.

The BRZ needs the WRX turbo'ed version of the engine.

Make that and Subaru has a perfect 10.
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They make the perfect point.

The BRZ needs the WRX turbo'ed version of the engine.

Make that and Subaru has a perfect 10.
Given that the FA20 in the WRX is almost the same as the BRZ's heart, doesn't this mean you can do a WRX FA20 transplant into a BRZ? This only means good things for BRZ owners.

I know the WRX FA20 has Subaru's DI system whereas the the BRZ FA20 has the D4S DI system from Toyota.

Anyone heard of crickets in the WRX?
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