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Old 06-11-2014, 02:35 PM   #127
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Did you just pick the same car the the Top Gear guys picked as absolute worst car ever for driving pleasure?


are you for real?

they picked the SC430....

and they said it was the worst car from Lexus, not the worst ever made
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:36 PM   #128
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It's entirely possible that we just disagree on what makes a car fun. I like cars based on FEEL not the ability to do burnouts, drift and do donuts
thats fun in my book...

when I had Acura/Honda, they made me feel:
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  • cant wait to trade in this thing

but i can't complain too much. i didn't pay for my TL. it was a grad gift.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:37 PM   #129
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are you for real?

they picked the SC430....

and they said it was the worst car from Lexus, not the worst ever made
"The Top Gear crew recently released a DVD where they literally try and determine what is the worst car in the world. They get their answer, I'm just not sure Lexus fans will be able to hear the truth. Hit the jump to find out what they chose. SPOILER WARNING!
According to the guys at Top Gear, the worst car in the history of the world is the Lexus SC430"
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:39 PM   #130
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"The Top Gear crew recently released a DVD where they literally try and determine what is the worst car in the world. They get their answer, I'm just not sure Lexus fans will be able to hear the truth. Hit the jump to find out what they chose. SPOILER WARNING!
According to the guys at Top Gear, the worst car in the history of the world is the Lexus SC430"
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SC300!!!!!!!

SC300 is not the same car as the SC430....

I guess they never drove the ford piano
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:48 PM   #131
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:48 PM   #132
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WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SC300!!!!!!!

SC300 is not the same car as the SC430....

I guess they never drove the ford piano
Sorry - You apparently missed my edit where I said "Ahh Sorry it was the SC430....."
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:50 PM   #133
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Sorry - You apparently missed my edit where I said "Ahh Sorry it was the SC430....."
Yeah cuz this forum takes forever to update.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:51 PM   #134
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Does the Cobalt SS supercharged/turbocharged count?

If I recall correctly, the SS turbocharged is actually one of the few FWD vehicles that is quite quick around the Nürburgring.

Owning one, I can agree that it was quick and the suspension was pretty good. Torque steer killed it though for me (typical for 'most' high powered FWD vehicles).
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:22 PM   #135
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If we're including cobalts and skittles, what about the Saturn Ion Redline? :P
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:48 PM   #136
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Does the Cobalt SS supercharged/turbocharged count?

If I recall correctly, the SS turbocharged is actually one of the few FWD vehicles that is quite quick around the Nürburgring.

Owning one, I can agree that it was quick and the suspension was pretty good. Torque steer killed it though for me (typical for 'most' high powered FWD vehicles).
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If we're including cobalts and skittles, what about the Saturn Ion Redline? :P
srt4 and cobalt ss-tc were pretty good for what they were, but I was unimpressed with the ion redline...my buddy had the redline the same time I had my srt4, and he has since upgraded to the turbo'd cobalt
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Wow.

I understand that this is a forum based around a RWD car but that doesn't mean it is the ultimate setup. The Fail Wheel Drive, AWD is for slippery surfaces, etc. comments show how closed minded 90% of everyone is here.

I live in Maine, right now my BRZ is all I have as I sold my FWD Impreza and will be buying a truck for winter. My impreza was much much faster and handled better then my BRZ during the winter.

So by the RWD elitist's definition wasn't my impreza a sports car? And yes, between 93 and 95 Subaru did make a FWD Impreza.
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The last car to win the 25 hours of Thunderhill was a FWD-converted Audi TT RS..
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The last car to win the 25 hours of Thunderhill was a FWD-converted Audi TT RS..
just wondering, but do you happen to have the ratio of FWD to RWD cars that have won races?
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just wondering, but do you happen to have the ratio of FWD to RWD cars that have won races?
The ratio does not matter. Why?

RWD was around for a long time before FWD. It is simpler to design a tranmission with a single output using a drive shaft going to a differential versus a compact engine/transmission design like used in most FWD designs. The only vehicle's I know of that are FWD and use a "conventional" transmission behind engine design are pre-1996 subaru's. These were basically AWD transmissions with no rear output.
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