How to repair clear coat eaten by bird droppings? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

NWFRS · 05-22-2014, 01:29 PM

Any tips or suggestions for repairing clear coat that has been eaten by bird poop? It must have been terribly acidic, because I cleaned it the day it happened, but it looks like it ate down into the clear a little. It looks rough. There are two locations, one on the hood and one on the cabin roof. Both about the size of a quarter. I already washed and clay barred last night. Any suggestions?

This is a regular occurrence for myself and my coworkers. Seagulls nest on the roof, and nothing can be done because the Port owns our building.

Thanks.

White64Goat · 05-22-2014, 04:44 PM

Car Cover ...............they might be a hassle, but is ruined paint not worth it?

humfrz · 05-25-2014, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS

Any tips or suggestions for repairing clear coat that has been eaten by bird poop? It must have been terribly acidic, because I cleaned it the day it happened, but it looks like it ate down into the clear a little. It looks rough. There are two locations, one on the hood and one on the cabin roof. Both about the size of a quarter. I already washed and clay barred last night. Any suggestions?

This is a regular occurrence for myself and my coworkers. Seagulls nest on the roof, and nothing can be done because the Port owns our building.

Thanks.

Yep, get to and eliminate the root problem .... the makers and depositors of uric acid ......

humfrz

dannyboy8793 · 05-25-2014, 08:50 AM

LOL @ humfrs,

Turbo95eg6 · 05-25-2014, 12:05 PM

Only way is leveling the clear with a polish.

speargunsandracecars · 05-25-2014, 09:24 PM

Using a Porter Cable with a very fine to fine polishing compound will get rid of it. Don't forget to apply wax afterwards.

Junkman2008 · 05-28-2014, 10:51 AM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsAizS6d064"]Bird Poop Etching Repair - Part II - YouTube[/ame]

Poodles · 06-07-2014, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

Ugh, that guy doesn't know how to use a clay bar correctly and scratches the hell out of the paint.

I'd follow Larry's advice here:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgHd1twCHYM"]How to Wet Sand a Water Mark in Black Paint - YouTube[/ame]

Main issue is that the BMW's paint is very very hard vs the twins having pretty soft paint. But taking that video on it's own is a bit dangerous. As a general rule he steps up on aggressiveness until the blemish is gone and wouldn't go straight to sanding unless it's necessary (keep in mind he does this for a living and works on priceless cars all the time as well so his experience plays into this).

If you don't feel comfortable doing such things to your car, you can always hire a detailer!

Junkman2008 · 06-07-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Poodles

Ugh, that guy doesn't know how to use a clay bar correctly and scratches the hell out of the paint.

This coming from someone who doesn't even know how to fix paint? Now that's funny!

Lord knows, I've NEVER worked on anything more expensive than a Geo Metro so I must be a hack!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n9AZFYfH-E"]Minor Scratch Removal on a Lamborghini Murcielago - YouTube[/ame]

Junkman2008 · 06-07-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stay Fresh Car Care

We will chime in here now. Wet sanding is very dangerous if you have no experience.

Yes it is, and that is stressed in every video that I have ever posted on the subject.

radroach · 06-07-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

This coming from someone who doesn't even know how to fix paint? Now that's funny!

Respect for the biz, I watched your video, but you were claying the same spot on a car for minutes on end, which seems completely unnecessary and you could see it adding more defects to the paint.

Junkman2008 · 06-07-2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by radroach

Respect for the biz, I watched your video, but you were claying the same spot on a car for minutes on end, which seems completely unnecessary and you could see it adding more defects to the paint.

... and that damaged was REMOVED with ONE pass of a light polish. Also, the bird etching damaged was removed. So where's the issue here?

Add to that, it was aftermarket paint on that fascia, which is much softer than OEM.

Poodles · 06-07-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

This coming from someone who doesn't even know how to fix paint? Now that's funny!

Lord knows, I've NEVER worked on anything more expensive than a Geo Metro so I must be a hack!

Apparently I dunno what I'm doing because I don't make an ass of myself on youtube

You are a hack because you're using a clay bar as an abrasive.

Also, if you haven't heard of Larry, you're living under a rock...

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Originally Posted by Stay Fresh Car Care

We will chime in here now. Wet sanding is very dangerous if you have no experience. We talked to the OP over the phone and sent him our Refresh 3 polish with a few hex pads. Keep in mind the OP has no experience in paint correction. We want to start novice detailers off in baby steps.

If he can not remove this problem by hand we offered the OP a future deal on the porter cable 7424XP and our polishing pads.

Any paint correction is "dangerous" if you have no experience. Also notice I said:

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Originally Posted by Poodles

Main issue is that the BMW's paint is very very hard vs the twins having pretty soft paint. But taking that video on it's own is a bit dangerous. As a general rule he steps up on aggressiveness until the blemish is gone and wouldn't go straight to sanding unless it's necessary (keep in mind he does this for a living and works on priceless cars all the time as well so his experience plays into this).

If you don't feel comfortable doing such things to your car, you can always hire a detailer!

Reading helps.

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Originally Posted by radroach

Respect for the biz, I watched your video, but you were claying the same spot on a car for minutes on end, which seems completely unnecessary and you could see it adding more defects to the paint.

It's the equivalent of using a standard socket on a metric nut, sure it might work but you're using the wrong tools and it was never intended for that.

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

... and that damaged was REMOVED with ONE pass of a light polish. Also, the bird etching damaged was removed. So where's the issue here?

Add to that, it was aftermarket paint on that fascia, which is much softer than OEM.

The issue is you're using clay bar as an abrasive. It's not the intended usage of clay, and you're teaching bad technique for claying.

Junkman2008 · 06-07-2014, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Poodles

Apparently I dunno what I'm doing because I don't make an ass of myself on youtube

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