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Old 04-07-2012, 01:38 PM   #29
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Hids are better. Makes you see better at night and they also look cooler. The scion lights look cheap. But it is what it is. Scion made their decision and they will have to live with it. And you are right there are choices.

But $850 for the bespoke? I hope that is wrong...
HIDs being better are your opinion. I prefer infinitely the orange-yellowish warm tones produced by traditional lights than white light, which I find cold, clynical, and while does improve clarity, lacks any sense of warmth or personality when driving at night. I have always hated driving in cars with them.

They started putting in LED street lights in Seattle, and the way it changes how a block feels at night is striking. A lot of people hate it. It provides a beam of clarity yes, but the color palate change from orangeish warm to that whitish light makes you feel like you're in a hospital.

Shot below with both types. The orangeish sodium vapor lights seem natural. That IS the correct color palate in nature. There is no white light like seen in LEDs and HIDs in nature. It really changes how neighborhoods feel at night, and I think for the worse, but that's my opinion.



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Old 04-07-2012, 06:19 PM   #30
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HIDs being better are your opinion. I prefer infinitely the orange-yellowish warm tones produced by traditional lights than white light, which I find cold, clynical, and while does improve clarity, lacks any sense of warmth or personality when driving at night. I have always hated driving in cars with them.

They started putting in LED street lights in Seattle, and the way it changes how a block feels at night is striking. A lot of people hate it. It provides a beam of clarity yes, but the color palate change from orangeish warm to that whitish light makes you feel like you're in a hospital.

Shot below with both types. The orangeish sodium vapor lights seem natural. That IS the correct color palate in nature. There is no white light like seen in LEDs and HIDs in nature. It really changes how neighborhoods feel at night, and I think for the worse, but that's my opinion.


It's ironic that you say it's his opinion, then you opine about how you like the look of the yellow glow.

However what matters is lumen output and visibility that good HIDs provide.

In certain areas HIDs can be a matter of safety. Granted the recent halogen projectors I've seen have been decent, but I also have poor night vision and a good set of HIDs (around 4300K) helps even more. I could care less about the color.

Sure the look exterior look of the lights is subjective, I do think the BRZs are nicer, but the light output isn't.
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:34 PM   #31
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That's pretty cool that it runs Winamp. Takes me back to the 90's
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86'd is right. HIDs being better headlights is not an opinion, they offer better visibility, therefore they are the better headlight.

Most people that use HIDs love em. First time Ive ever heard of someone who prefers the dull, off-color, tinge of old school units.
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:08 PM   #33
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850 is too much especially for a unit that relies on a phone
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:45 PM   #35
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So if you are traveling cross country you are screwed.

I drove from nyc to Utah once, and cell phone coverage Sprint was pretty bad. Also had wife's iPhone as well as EVO 4G and both were unreliable .

I was glad I had the gps on my car.
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I dont get all the hoopla of WHY a HU needs to have smartphone connectivity.....

you drive, you look at the screen for nav instructions and maybe navigate your mp3's and that's it.....

why would u need apps and junk on a car? This generation of electronic doodads for cars is truly ridiculous......
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That's pretty cool that it runs Winamp. Takes me back to the 90's
Where did you see that it runs winamp? I've been using it for 10+ years and it's still awesome.
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are we able to get the premium sound that comes with the tc and such? seeing as some people wont need the phone connectivity this should also be an option
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Where did you see that it runs winamp? I've been using it for 10+ years and it's still awesome.
Lol it doesn't actually run Winamp, it just looks exactly like it. All it's missing is the awesome spectral analyzer. I used to love Winamp.

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I dont get all the hoopla of WHY a HU needs to have smartphone connectivity.....

you drive, you look at the screen for nav instructions and maybe navigate your mp3's and that's it.....

why would u need apps and junk on a car? This generation of electronic doodads for cars is truly ridiculous......
But you are old school bro. Nothing wrong with that. There is this new thing called telematics in cars. There is also a zypr app that shows gauges like in the GTR. Plus you can create your own apps for free.

Mp3s? We now stream our music using pandora, mog, ect or stream your music collection from home.
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It's ironic that you say it's his opinion, then you opine about how you like the look of the yellow glow.

However what matters is lumen output and visibility that good HIDs provide.

In certain areas HIDs can be a matter of safety. Granted the recent halogen projectors I've seen have been decent, but I also have poor night vision and a good set of HIDs (around 4300K) helps even more. I could care less about the color.

Sure the look exterior look of the lights is subjective, I do think the BRZs are nicer, but the light output isn't.
Led looks better and uses less power and last a lot longer. Down here in San Antonio they changed all the Xmas lights on the river walk to led. People cOmplained but they got over it. The city saved a lot of money in bulb replacement costs.
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But you are old school bro. Nothing wrong with that. There is this new thing called telematics in cars. There is also a zypr app that shows gauges like in the GTR. Plus you can create your own apps for free.

Mp3s? We now stream our music using pandora, mog, ect or stream your music collection from home.
how do the GTR style guages function? Is there a cable that connects into the obdII port and into your phone? Sources please
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