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Old 05-31-2014, 06:41 PM   #29
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Wow, you're right. Mistakes made in the heat of the moment or material failure under extreme stress must mean that they don't bother torquing their wheel nuts at all.

Oh wait, no. That's wrong. Do you really think that the Ferrari F1 team will completely overlook something so basic as torquing a wheel nut properly? Or do you think that they would have designed a tool that applies the proper torque for them? Nice try though.
I am pretty sure the Ferrari F1 team can careless about torquing the lugs down to the exact amount as I am sure they are using the best/strongest wheel studs money can buy and are replacing them before every race. So if they over torque by a little bit its no big deal to them as its all about speed and time because in professional racing winning is everything. Hell Enzo Ferrari created Ferrari S.p.A. out of Scuderia Ferrari to sell road cars so he could fund his racing team because sponsors weren't giving enough money and at that time all the r&d that Ferrari S.p.A. was using in there cars was not in the race cars.
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:22 AM   #30
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Road car =/= race car


Comparing the two is a fool's errand...


I myself don't use rattle guns as they're known to wear threads, break fasteners, etc.


Ever seen one of the shops where they work on Ferrari's, etc? Not an air tool in sight...
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:40 AM   #31
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The engineers who designed the vehicle didn't print the torque specifications in the service manual because they had too much time on their hands. They're there so you parts of your car don't come flying off because you've stretched too many bolts too many times.

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Here's how I tightened mine.
I realise this forum is as anal about "correct torque settings" as it is about removing the driving aids, but do you REALLY think that in the real world, in a real workshop, mechanic a is yelling out to mechanic b "hey is this bolt here 90 or 100 ftlbs? They're not.
The reason they do this is to move on the next job, not because it's the correct way of doing things.

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Here's how I tightened mine.
Ever seen a pit crew / race team use a torque wrench on wheels/suspension arms?
This example is silly. How do we know the equipment they use doesn't have a torque limit lower than the specified torque they need? Perhaps the limit is lower than that of the designed torque specifications? How do we know they haven't taken apart the suspension hundreds of times to know how many turns for each bolt before they go above the torque specifications? We're also assuming they don't go back and inspect their work after the race. We're assuming they don't replace the bolts they've stretched on their own time.
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Old 06-01-2014, 03:20 AM   #32
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3 types of torques I use

1. Use a torque wrench when possible and when available.

2. The German torque "goodintight"

3. 60 degrees wrench arc torque.
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Old 06-01-2014, 11:57 PM   #33
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Hi, I'm Michael and I'm a torque-setting whore.
Yes, for most things, IT MATTERS.
At least to me.
Sorry if that offends. 😉


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