Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[myioz86]

Originally Posted by gtfapollo

Just a quick query. I know that Rob must be very busy with his work and getting these kits sorted out, but how long should I wait until I get a response from him? I sent a PM to him one week ago regarding the purchase of one of his TQ-25024V's. I don't want to pester him by sending him more PM's if he is busy but I would like to get one ASAP.

gums is the first to get the phantom in australia rob was sorting out a few things with him and the RHD ESC. I have been in contact with rob and have been wating for months now but rob should nearly be done with the changes soon just be patient he will get back to you. YE HA GO THE OZZY ESC

[TM]

How accurate would it be to use OFT's datalogging fuctions to record 0-60 times? It has the ability to log road speed and time.

If it's fairly accurate, I would be able to do a bunch of pulls testing different variables without having to look at a screen, and then view the results in the safety of my own home.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by TM

How accurate would it be to use OFT's datalogging fuctions to record 0-60 times? It has the ability to log road speed and time.

If it's fairly accurate, I would be able to do a bunch of pulls testing different variables without having to look at a screen, and then view the results in the safety of my own home.

Should be fairly good the sample rate is fairly fast on the oft. Better than a app on your phone I imagine.

The torque app never seemed that good

[Target70]

Originally Posted by TM

How accurate would it be to use OFT's datalogging fuctions to record 0-60 times? It has the ability to log road speed and time.

If it's fairly accurate, I would be able to do a bunch of pulls testing different variables without having to look at a screen, and then view the results in the safety of my own home.

That's what I was planning to do, only I didn't think it did road speed, I thought I would have to calculate the speed via rpm + gear.

[Luckrider]

I would still manually calculate the needed RPM to hit 60 with your tires though since the ROM range of that 1mph could change the resulting time slightly. It should still be good for accuracy within about 1/4 of a second though.

[stevo585]

Originally Posted by Target70

Thank You.

If you are at ~205whp, from ESC and 1.5 dump pack, from ~165-170whp, that is about +40whp.

If accurate, then compared to this: http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...ck-tested.html The extra low end torque of the ESC over the innovate makes quite a difference (.3sec)

stevo585: I've hit 14.6 on the OFT e85 stage 2 on a stock car. I would think 13's should be easy. Seems like no one has 1/4 mile tracked their car with the ESC?

14.6 on e85, at sea level, what did edmunds do to hit 14.8 completely stock?

If anyone has posted an actual track time I missed it.
but with dual dumps and bolt-ons shiv hit 217, I estimate 235whp with E85, that should be good for another .3 seconds off of 1/4 mile. I think we can hit 13.7

Yeah no doubt no one posts 1/4 times. I'm actually more interested in trap speed as that is an indication of power (mine was 96-97). I should have around 180-190 whp (only guessing). Times are more of the 60' time which I could only do 2.1 with stock tires with about dozen runs of practice.

My car also only has 5k miles on it. Could be that the engine is still fairly "tight". Edmunds likely went down the quarter mile several dozen times picking the best. Who knows. I'm just curious of what the ESC does for the quarter mile that's all. With all that low end torque you should be able to hit great 60' times . I was launching at 4-5k about as hard as possible so I really think I was power limited more than traction limited.

[raven1231]

I got the New controller installed and so far so good (Thanks Rob). I will keep you all updated as well. Now I need the 1.5 conversion.

[shif7i7down]

Hypothetically, wouldn't it be possible to plumb the ac blower into the esc. I mean since the typical ac blower can move 300cfm and our 2liter motor only consumes roughly 276cfm @7.5k redline we can have 55degree air going into the compressor for maximum air density and coolest air possible.

[Urmyson]

I was thinking about the 1.5 pack the other day. From what I understand the more plates we have to faster the dump pack can feed the ESC resulting in higher boost. I'm guessing thats why the small batteries in the 1.5 make a big difference. So would having three .5 packs instead of the original dump be even even better? You would have a total of 6 batteries and they would fit in the exact same place the 1.5 pack is now.

Just wondering if this has been tested at by Rob or shiv?

[shif7i7down]

Originally Posted by Urmyson

I was thinking about the 1.5 pack the other day. From what I understand the more plates we have to faster the dump pack can feed the ESC resulting in higher boost. I'm guessing thats why the small batteries in the 1.5 make a big difference. So would having three .5 packs instead of the original dump be even even better? You would have a total of 6 batteries and they would fit in the exact same place the 1.5 pack is now.

Just wondering if this has been tested at by Rob or shiv?

If rob would sell me 2additional .5 dump pack connector and a conversion kit for the power cord ( from the big to 2smaller.5 dump connector) I'll be willing to test out your theory. The small batteries for the .5 dump is pretty cheap

[WNDSRFR]

Originally Posted by TM

How accurate would it be to use OFT's datalogging fuctions to record 0-60 times? It has the ability to log road speed and time.

If it's fairly accurate, I would be able to do a bunch of pulls testing different variables without having to look at a screen, and then view the results in the safety of my own home.

I just tried this. I did a couple of 0-60 runs.
Then I noted the time when the roadspeed changed from 0, the same time the throttle position went from 0 to 90 something percent.
Then I noted the time when the roadspeed went to 60 and subtracted the times.
Both runs were exactly 7 seconds. Kinda slow right?
There are a few contributing factors to take into account. One is I had wheelspin pretty much through all of 1st gear and a lot of 2nd.
And I have a few things I have to check out. One is that my throttle position never goes past like 91 percent. And another thing is the boost never went over 3.5 PSI

[Luckrider]

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

Hypothetically, wouldn't it be possible to plumb the ac blower into the esc. I mean since the typical ac blower can move 300cfm and our 2liter motor only consumes roughly 276cfm @7.5k redline we can have 55degree air going into the compressor for maximum air density and coolest air possible.

I have thought about this for a supercharging option. Sanden AC compressors are common on Jeeps for on board air. They can fill a 5 gallon tank to 150psi in no time at all.

[shif7i7down]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

I just tried this. I did a couple of 0-60 runs.
Then I noted the time when the roadspeed changed from 0, the same time the throttle position went from 0 to 90 something percent.
Then I noted the time when the roadspeed went to 60 and subtracted the times.
Both runs were exactly 7 seconds. Kinda slow right?
There are a few contributing factors to take into account. One is I had wheelspin pretty much through all of 1st gear and a lot of 2nd.
And I have a few things I have to check out. One is that my throttle position never goes past like 91 percent. And another thing is the boost never went over 3.5 PSI

If you launch @ lower rpm (around 3k)and keep wheel spin to nothing more then a chirp without bogging the motor when wot and full clutch release. you'll be allot faster.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

If you launch @ lower rpm (around 3k)and keep wheel spin to nothing more then a chirp without bogging the motor when wot and full clutch release. you'll be allot faster.

Which is the opposite of how I could get a decent time with Torque Pro when the car was stock. Times sucked unless I got significant (for stock) wheelspin.

All the extra torque now creates way too much wheelspin.