Ordered new BRZ! Is FCPP dealer option any good? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Masago88 · 05-29-2014, 12:29 AM

Greetings fellow Canucks

I'm proud to psyched to say I ordered a new BRZ today, after finding a good price on easycardiscounts.com; really can't wait (and hope the GTA traffic gods will protect me on the way home). Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the dealer optioned 'First Canadian Protection Products' (FCPP) the dealer is offering.

https://www.firstcanadian.ca/chemical.htm#

Particularly the 'Undercoat Protection' - is this worth getting? Does it actually soften road noise by a noticeable amount?

I was planning on getting it Opti-Coated by a third party, would this be the better option than the paint protection offered? Is Rust proof worth getting third party as well?

Thanks again for any insight. Also, if Opti-coat is the way to go where's the best place to go in the GTA?

Cliu91 · 05-29-2014, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Masago88

Greetings fellow Canucks

I'm proud to psyched to say I ordered a new BRZ today, after finding a good price on easycardiscounts.com; really can't wait (and hope the GTA traffic gods will protect me on the way home). Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the dealer optioned 'First Canadian Protection Products' (FCPP) the dealer is offering.

https://www.firstcanadian.ca/chemical.htm#

Particularly the 'Undercoat Protection' - is this worth getting? Does it actually soften road noise by a noticeable amount?

I was planning on getting it Opti-Coated by a third party, would this be the better option than the paint protection offered? Is Rust proof worth getting third party as well?

Thanks again for any insight. Also, if Opti-coat is the way to go where's the best place to go in the GTA?

Sorry that I can't offer any input on your question, but I'd like to welcome you to the community! Look forward to seeing pics of the car!

Skurj · 05-29-2014, 07:33 AM

Don't bother with dealer undercoat.. find someone local to you that does it.

Hamza @ getdetailed.ca does Opticoat Pro, very happy with how mine turned out. Consider getting clear bra as well. Right away if you can afford it.

Skurj · 05-29-2014, 07:39 AM

Oo if the car is ordered and not delivered yet.. tell the dealer not to touch the car. As in do not remove the plastic that covers the paint and such for transit. Your detailer will do a better job of removing it and it may save you a few swirls and $$ if your detailer gets the car as soon as you take delivery.

Masago88 · 05-29-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Skurj

Oo if the car is ordered and not delivered yet.. tell the dealer not to touch the car. As in do not remove the plastic that covers the paint and such for transit. Your detailer will do a better job of removing it and it may save you a few swirls and $$ if your detailer gets the car as soon as you take delivery.

I kind of figured Opticoat would be the way to go, and getdetailed.ca is definitely one of the available options I'm considering. But is undercoat/rust proofing the bottom of the car better done by the dealer or third party as well? Does the stuff ACTUALLY provide sound deadening as stated?

Skurj · 05-29-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Masago88

I kind of figured Opticoat would be the way to go, and getdetailed.ca is definitely one of the available options I'm considering. But is undercoat/rust proofing the bottom of the car better done by the dealer or third party as well? Does the stuff ACTUALLY provide sound deadening as stated?

Any undercoating adds some sound deadening. I got my BRZ done by the dealer, they charge like $1000 for paint and rustproofing, and then they charge you every year for reapplication... May as well just go to krown, and get Opticoat done at your choice.

The BRZ is my first new car, if I was doing it again I would say no to the dealer stuff. Maybe the only one I would consider is if they offer wheel coverage against a damage.. but only if you aren't going to swap the wheels for aftermarket...

driftops · 05-29-2014, 10:14 AM

When I bought my BRZ a week ago, they said they don't do the rust undercoating anymore. They use the electronic rust protection module. (Willowdale Subaru)

mabviper · 05-29-2014, 10:20 AM

My suggestion is to get clear bra from the windshield forward. I currently have a lot of paint chips on my car. Though, to be fair, I also have paint chips on both of my doors...

Also, I got both paint and rustproofing done to my car. It was a 1 time application and is guaranteed for 10 years. I did it mainly to ensure that any rust on my paint is going to be covered.

Furthermore, if you care about bumper holes for the plates, you should tell them now ^^

PMPB · 05-29-2014, 10:30 AM

The rust module does absolutely nothing. You're paying your dealer $1500 or whatever ungodly amount they want for an insurance policy against rust.

I'm not saying 'no' to clear bra, but consider the colour of your paint, and that you have an aluminium hood. The plastic of the bumpers is black, so a chip on white will look the worst.

Also consider that most places won't have clear bra wider than about 30" so they don't do the full hood. Once the bra needs replacing, you'll have to get the same portions wrapped or you'll see a fade line from the unprotected portion.

Opti-coat + full hood, front fenders, front bumper, a-pillar, roof line, and in front of the rear wheels is going to set you back A LOT. Maybe as much as a repaint in 8-10 years, if you keep the car that long.

I'm going with weather tech mats for the inside, mud flaps to protect the sides, and just driving well back from trucks that throw stones. I may consider opti-coat+paint correction after 3-4 years when my personal skills with a hand polisher and a good paint sealant no longer hide the blemishes.

Skurj · 05-29-2014, 10:46 AM

Yeah do not get the electronic box... snake oil thing..
I also told the dealer not to drill the front bumper for the license plate, I had my plate relocate kit shipped to the dealer.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 05-29-2014, 10:55 AM

Undercoat and rust protection is all a sham IMO, but FCPP is a good company to deal with in terms of extended warranty.

driftops · 05-29-2014, 12:07 PM

Read the fine print on the rust guarantee... I'm pretty sure it's only covered if it rusts completely through (ie hole) Surface rust/bubbling I don't think will be covered.

Jlin · 05-29-2014, 01:56 PM

also, the rust proofing warranty is only valid IF you bring the car back to the dealer for annual inspection and you would have to pay for them to retouch it. I learned the hard way, never again!

PMPB · 05-29-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by driftops

Read the fine print on the rust guarantee... I'm pretty sure it's only covered if it rusts completely through (ie hole) Surface rust/bubbling I don't think will be covered.

It's true, it covers perforation starting from inside the component.

05-29-2014, 12:29 AM	#1
Masago88 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: '14 WRB BRZ LTD, '98 Camry Location: Canada Posts: 25 Thanks: 11 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ordered new BRZ! Is FCPP dealer option any good? Greetings fellow Canucks I'm proud to psyched to say I ordered a new BRZ today, after finding a good price on easycardiscounts.com; really can't wait (and hope the GTA traffic gods will protect me on the way home). Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the dealer optioned 'First Canadian Protection Products' (FCPP) the dealer is offering. https://www.firstcanadian.ca/chemical.htm# Particularly the 'Undercoat Protection' - is this worth getting? Does it actually soften road noise by a noticeable amount? I was planning on getting it Opti-Coated by a third party, would this be the better option than the paint protection offered? Is Rust proof worth getting third party as well? Thanks again for any insight. Also, if Opti-coat is the way to go where's the best place to go in the GTA?

05-29-2014, 07:33 AM	#3
Skurj Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: SOLD... Location: GTA Ontario Posts: 955 Thanks: 56 Thanked 192 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Don't bother with dealer undercoat.. find someone local to you that does it. Hamza @ getdetailed.ca does Opticoat Pro, very happy with how mine turned out. Consider getting clear bra as well. Right away if you can afford it. __________________ WRB MT BRZ Sport Tech Delivered March 21 2013 Its mine now!! Paid for Mar 2018 and its gone... Sept '18 tho I am sure I will miss it Replaced with 18 50th edition ND

05-29-2014, 07:39 AM	#4
Skurj Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: SOLD... Location: GTA Ontario Posts: 955 Thanks: 56 Thanked 192 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oo if the car is ordered and not delivered yet.. tell the dealer not to touch the car. As in do not remove the plastic that covers the paint and such for transit. Your detailer will do a better job of removing it and it may save you a few swirls and $$ if your detailer gets the car as soon as you take delivery. __________________ WRB MT BRZ Sport Tech Delivered March 21 2013 Its mine now!! Paid for Mar 2018 and its gone... Sept '18 tho I am sure I will miss it Replaced with 18 50th edition ND

05-29-2014, 10:46 AM	#10
Skurj Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: SOLD... Location: GTA Ontario Posts: 955 Thanks: 56 Thanked 192 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah do not get the electronic box... snake oil thing.. I also told the dealer not to drill the front bumper for the license plate, I had my plate relocate kit shipped to the dealer. __________________ WRB MT BRZ Sport Tech Delivered March 21 2013 Its mine now!! Paid for Mar 2018 and its gone... Sept '18 tho I am sure I will miss it Replaced with 18 50th edition ND

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driftops Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 58 Thanks: 11 Thanked 48 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When I bought my BRZ a week ago, they said they don't do the rust undercoating anymore. They use the electronic rust protection module. (Willowdale Subaru)

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mabviper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 286 Thanks: 21 Thanked 161 Times in 97 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	My suggestion is to get clear bra from the windshield forward. I currently have a lot of paint chips on my car. Though, to be fair, I also have paint chips on both of my doors... Also, I got both paint and rustproofing done to my car. It was a 1 time application and is guaranteed for 10 years. I did it mainly to ensure that any rust on my paint is going to be covered. Furthermore, if you care about bumper holes for the plates, you should tell them now ^^

05-29-2014, 10:30 AM	#9
PMPB Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: BRZ Sport-tech Location: Canada Posts: 347 Thanks: 77 Thanked 182 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The rust module does absolutely nothing. You're paying your dealer $1500 or whatever ungodly amount they want for an insurance policy against rust. I'm not saying 'no' to clear bra, but consider the colour of your paint, and that you have an aluminium hood. The plastic of the bumpers is black, so a chip on white will look the worst. Also consider that most places won't have clear bra wider than about 30" so they don't do the full hood. Once the bra needs replacing, you'll have to get the same portions wrapped or you'll see a fade line from the unprotected portion. Opti-coat + full hood, front fenders, front bumper, a-pillar, roof line, and in front of the rear wheels is going to set you back A LOT. Maybe as much as a repaint in 8-10 years, if you keep the car that long. I'm going with weather tech mats for the inside, mud flaps to protect the sides, and just driving well back from trucks that throw stones. I may consider opti-coat+paint correction after 3-4 years when my personal skills with a hand polisher and a good paint sealant no longer hide the blemishes.

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BRZZZZZZZZZZ Car Nut Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: BMW 335d, Toyota Echo RS, FRS Location: Calgary Posts: 1,557 Thanks: 368 Thanked 603 Times in 346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Undercoat and rust protection is all a sham IMO, but FCPP is a good company to deal with in terms of extended warranty.

05-29-2014, 12:07 PM	#12
driftops Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 58 Thanks: 11 Thanked 48 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Read the fine print on the rust guarantee... I'm pretty sure it's only covered if it rusts completely through (ie hole) Surface rust/bubbling I don't think will be covered.

05-29-2014, 01:56 PM	#13
Jlin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Canada Posts: 117 Thanks: 28 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	also, the rust proofing warranty is only valid IF you bring the car back to the dealer for annual inspection and you would have to pay for them to retouch it. I learned the hard way, never again!

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