2015 Ford Mustang / Shelby GT350 Official - 5.2L FPC with 500+hp/400+ lb-ft

[ZionsWrath]

Why can't sport car just mean a car you love to thrash. What's the point of having an arbitrary list of qualifications. Pretty sure most of the cars I've seen in track day posts and videos would not be considered sports cars by the various "definitions" I've seen people post on here. But I bet they are all having fun and didn't stay home because someone told them their vehicle isn't a "sports car".

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Ctuckfly

For the love of God it's a piece of shit ford not a Corvette! It clearly says brz/86 forum when you login.

Remember that when you see the car's taillights for the first time.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

Why can't sport car just mean a car you love to thrash. What's the point of having an arbitrary list of qualifications. Pretty sure most of the cars I've seen in track day posts and videos would not be considered sports cars by the various "definitions" I've seen people post on here. But I bet they are all having fun and didn't stay home because someone told them their vehicle isn't a "sports car".

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[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

Why can't sport car just mean a car you love to thrash. What's the point of having an arbitrary list of qualifications. Pretty sure most of the cars I've seen in track day posts and videos would not be considered sports cars by the various "definitions" I've seen people post on here. But I bet they are all having fun and didn't stay home because someone told them their vehicle isn't a "sports car".

The term Sports Car used to be a way to classify a car based on certain qualities. Its harder to define now, but still used for a specific type of car. You can't just call any fun to drive car a Sports Car, just like you can't call all American cars Muscle Cars.

Just because my Taurus wagon has more torque than my FRS and can hold a bunch of stuff, doesn't mean it's automatically a Hot Hatch.

[blackhawkdown]

Originally Posted by Ctuckfly

For the love of God it's a piece of shit ford not a Corvette! It clearly says brz/86 forum when you login.

why hate on a ford mustang when it can clearly destroy your car? just the facts man, just the facts. why so much rage too? are you 18 and your parents bought your car? seems like it.

[jflogerzi]

I have to admit. I am interested in the Turbo 4 with stock forged internals. I am guessing there is a good amount of headroom in that car.

[Allch Chcar]

To 99% of the population today a sports car is a low slung, fast/quick, good handling car, with two doors. So when you use the definition of a sports car being only a two door, two seater, RWD, drop top, light weight, one-off design you are in fact using the archaic definition. Which is from the 50's I might add.

When most non-enthusiasts (Americans) think of a sports car today they think of a "muscle" car such as the Mustang or the Camaro. The Mustang was originally an American interpretation of European sports cars. And today it is still true to it's heritage.

[airjonny]

Based off of the ridiculous puritan definition of a sports car, I could probably count them all the cars on sale in the world on one hand.

[Davey]

The current Mustang is a big heavy car with uncommunicative, slow steering. Of course it has a live axle, too, which should be just terrible, but clearly it, and the rest of the suspension, works. But the way it works... Squats a lot on the gas, dives like crazy when you get on the brakes, and it kind of floats into a corner before the chassis settles down, almost reminds me of my dad's old Mercury Marquis.

Amazingly, it will get around a track really fast, and with over 400 HP that's not a huge surprise. The funny part is it's faster than a lot of cars you'd think it shouldn't be able to beat, even when it doesn't have a huge horsepower advantage, which is rare (unless it's the V6).

Bottom line, to me, it doesn't feel anything like a "sports car" no matter what kind of definition you use.

To me the Mustang is too big and too heavy, and plenty fast, and also plenty boring to drive. I was hoping they'd drop some weight and tighten up the dimensions, but that's not happening. The IRS will probably improve the weight distribution and in a few years Ford will have it handling really well, but I believe they are still using the 16:1 steering rack. I want to drive a car, not steer a boat.

[PRG3000]

Base MSRPs have been announced and the turbo four is right in line w the FRS.


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[blackhawkdown]

Originally Posted by PRG3000

Base MSRPs have been announced and the turbo four is right in line w the FRS.


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I'm not gonna lie, its a great deal for that turbo mustang. I'm pretty sure we will have some converters

[EAGLE5]

Pricing but no curb weight. Ford is annoying. Either it's going to lose so much weight that the old car is going to look like total crap, or it's going to actually gain weight and they're busy trying to minimize the gain. I'm hoping for the former, but I doubt it will happen. The Camaro outsells the Mustang, despite a higher weight. I'm betting the FR-S will still be the light car to buy. Mustang will still be the middle-weight. Camaro will still be the heavyweight. Charger will still be the barge.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by blackhawkdown

I'm not gonna lie, its a great deal for that turbo mustang. I'm pretty sure we will have some converters

With the kind of pricing they have, the Mustang makes for a great compromise car between DD and track even without the weight loss.

All the preliminary drives of the EcoBoost variant have been very positive and since a lot of the V8 standard options like seats, brakes, bracing, etc. will be offered as options to the EcoBoost, I can see this as Ford's moneymaker on the options (the trim to lure them in, the options to make 200% profit lol).

I seriously am thinking of getting the 'Stang to replace my DD if the fuel econ is really what they say it is.

[airjonny]

Wish the mustang would release specs already. The more they kick the can down the road, the more I think they are gonna be meh. Of course the engine numbers will be fine because Mericuh, but they've been ducking the weight question like a politician running for office.