Headers without a tune?

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by husker741

Where do you see the AFR for the FT86SF headers?

In its thread.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by GotBRZ1691

@husker741

I know I have read it several times on this forum but do you know what the name of the law is that prevents dealerships from denying warranty because of aftermarket parts?

yes belive it magnussen moss act or somthing similar
however in the end it going to come down to you, usually untrained without experience or qualifications arguing your point against qualified trained personel with the backup of automotive engineeers and lawyers and a big budget.

If you change your header you have altered the gas flows changed positioning of 02 sensors possibly removed cat, increased power output changed afr ect. You have probably removed heat shield so any melting deterioration of belts hoses or other components due heat from aftermarket headers would be most likely denied.

And thats if you were not running a tune or they did not find it.

Your chances of any engine warantee would be slim if they could find or argue that the problems were caused even indirectly by header or install. Even something as simple as an exhaust gasket leak near 02 sensor will cause incorrect readings and throw your afr and fuel trims wildly off. Or damage to 02 sensors ect

It would definitly risk denial of warantee on many engine related issues.

[s2d4]

Not to mention people buying and thinking stuff would be carb or emission legal just by having a cat with no proven data. Sounds legit.

[husker741]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Not to mention people buying and thinking stuff would be carb or emission legal just by having a cat with no proven data. Sounds legit.

Not everyone lives in a state that checks for that.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Not to mention people buying and thinking stuff would be carb or emission legal just by having a cat with no proven data. Sounds legit.

Thank God I don't live in Cali... my E39 is catless and passes emissions

[ramiram1984]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Thank God I don't live in Cali... my E39 is catless and passes emissions

in the county where I live here in WA, no emission laws.

[Malt]

Originally Posted by husker741

Not everyone lives in a state that checks for that.

Originally Posted by ramiram1984

in the county where I live here in WA, no emission laws.

Doesn't matter if you live in a state or county that checks for it, tampering with or replacing a functional catalytic converter is against federal law.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by Malt

Doesn't matter if you live in a state or county that checks for it, tampering with or replacing a functional catalytic converter is against federal law.

It's also unconstitutional that I have to meet certain requirementes (earn X amount of money or be a father) in order to have a concealed weapons licence, but I can't do shit about that.

[Malt]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

It's also unconstitutional that I have to meet certain requirementes (earn X amount of money or be a father) in order to have a concealed weapons licence, but I can't do shit about that.

If you can explain to me what a concealed carry license has to do with catless headers or tunes for ECUs I'd love to hear it, otherwise keep the politics/gun crap out of here.

[ramiram1984]

Originally Posted by Malt

If you can explain to me what a concealed carry license has to do with catless headers or tunes for ECUs I'd love to hear it, otherwise keep the politics/gun crap out of here.

basically coming down to stupid federal laws that make no sense...

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by Malt

If you can explain to me what a concealed carry license has to do with catless headers or tunes for ECUs I'd love to hear it, otherwise keep the politics/gun crap out of here.

Let me see, you say that even though a state doesn't have emission laws its against federal laws, then I say that a local state law is anti-constitutional but is still enforced, to prove that states can do whatever the fuck they want with the laws and you want to keep politics out.


SMDH

[mrmixitup]

Good info in this thread.