Headers without a tune?

[husker741]

Originally Posted by Jolaessss

I ran the RevWork UEL for a few months with an O2 spacer and without a tune and still got a CEL. You're already voiding your warranty by replacing the headers.

I highly recommend getting a tune. You can probably get away without a tune, but not for very long. You risk running too lean and possibly blowing something

No, you aren't voiding your warranty with headers. Nothing "voids" warranty, they can just deny you. He will be denied warranty for exhaust components, but nothing else.

[GotBRZ1691]

@husker741

I know I have read it several times on this forum but do you know what the name of the law is that prevents dealerships from denying warranty because of aftermarket parts?

[Boofneenee]

Mistake

[husker741]

Originally Posted by GotBRZ1691

@husker741

I know I have read it several times on this forum but do you know what the name of the law is that prevents dealerships from denying warranty because of aftermarket parts?

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They have to prove that the exact part caused the problem. They can't tell a guy who has a turbo on his car that they won't replace his taillights with condensation because he put a turbo on. It doesn't effect that part. But if something was wrong with his engine or transmission that they could prove messed it up, they can deny.

[eighty666]

Originally Posted by liajet24

I purchased the Borla UELs but I don't want to get a tune and void my warranty.

yea cause the headers wont void the warranty. thats a totally good idea to not get a tune. dont wanna mess up your warranty.
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[husker741]

Originally Posted by eighty666

yea cause the headers wont void the warranty. thats a totally good idea to not get a tune. dont wanna mess up your warranty.

Another ignorant post.

[eighty666]

Originally Posted by husker741

Another ignorant post.

i was just kidding. not trying to come off like that. ppl here already answered his question. header will work but kinda a waste with out a tune. for warranty, tune is easier to hide than a header (sound, you can see it).

HEADER ~$600
TUNE ~$600

$1200 Header/Tune will get u maybe 16hp-25hp $75-$48 per 1hp
$600 Header alone will maybe get you 2hp-10hp $300-$60 per 1hp

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by eighty666

i was just kidding. not trying to come off like that. ppl here already answered his question. header will work but kinda a waste with out a tune. for warranty, tune is easier to hide than a header (sound, you can see it).

HEADER ~$600
TUNE ~$600

$1200 Header/Tune will get u maybe 16hp-25hp $75-$48 per 1hp
$600 Header alone will maybe get you 2hp-10hp $300-$60 per 1hp

Cheap headers are 600... real quality headers are nearing 1 grand

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Cheap headers are 600... real quality headers are nearing 1 grand

OFT+OFH 1k

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by s2d4

OFT+OFH 1k

OFH </> JDL, FT86SF, P&L

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

OFH </> JDL, FT86SF, P&L

JDL, probably not although tuned vs tuned, not much difference between the 2.
P&L no idea.
FT86SF, non-tuned yeah but AFR looks like dog turd, tuned, not quite. Not in the same league as JDL either.

So 1k for header+tune with more performance vs header with no tune in terms of price, OFT+OFH can't be beat. You also get gauges and logging plus can learn tuning and make other adjustments specific to you car and use it to flash.

[gabeg86]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Cheap headers are 600... real quality headers are nearing 1 grand

Pretty sure then entire point of this thread is talking about Borla headers lol thus the $600 mark he used in his example is valid. Your comment, not so much. We're not talking about any other headers

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[eighty666]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Cheap headers are 600... real quality headers are nearing 1 grand

i kno. i was just saying 600 cause he got borla ~600

[husker741]

Originally Posted by s2d4

JDL, probably not although tuned vs tuned, not much difference between the 2.
P&L no idea.
FT86SF, non-tuned yeah but AFR looks like dog turd, tuned, not quite. Not in the same league as JDL either.

So 1k for header+tune with more performance vs header with no tune in terms of price, OFT+OFH can't be beat. You also get gauges and logging plus can learn tuning and make other adjustments specific to you car and use it to flash.

Where do you see the AFR for the FT86SF headers?