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View Poll Results: Did the BRZ's price change your mind?
Yes - The BRZ is a better value 104 56.83%
No- I'm sticking with the FR-S 63 34.43%
I'm not getting either of them 16 8.74%
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:06 PM   #29
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The $900 is for the HID's standalone. The packages that include them are a lot more than that.

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Old 04-05-2012, 03:09 PM   #30
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Sticking with FR-S:
1. Less expensive
2. Lighter weight
3. Don't care for HID / Navagation
4. Preference in suspension setup for the FR-S because I plan on keeping the suspension stock until time to replace components from wear.
5. Availability - the BRZ will be sold in a much more limited quantity than the FR-S = MUCH longer wait time to get one. Subaru themselves have said they want the BRZ to be a rarer sight than the FR-S on the roads.
6. Subaru dealership - only one, way far away : plenty of Toyota/Scion dealership close by in comparison.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:13 PM   #31
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Not buying either new, probably scoop one up used in 2-3 years after all the low income guys realize they can't afford it.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:16 PM   #32
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I'm sticking with the FR-S. I don't really care for leather seats and I've hated the front of the BRZ ever since the first time I saw it. If the photos from the NYIAS are to be believed, the nav unit will probably be an option, if not there is always aftermarket to look at.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:18 PM   #33
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umm...you will have to swap headlights, otherwise the bumper wont fit..
They are the same size and shape, just the bumpers are different.

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FR-S looks better.
FR-S is simpler (don't need a tv screen in my sports car).
FR-S is lighter (although somewhat trivial - it's worth more to me then fancy features).
FR-S is tuned for over steer.


$1200 for HIDs and navigation isn't what I call a screaming deal.
I wouldn't say "tuned for over steer". Most reviewers have mentioned that they cannot distinguish any suspension differences in between the two.

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I want the cheaper one! Track days and weekend races don't care for HIDs, feel good seats and a nicer stereos!
Right, one buys for what their needs are. I for one, want it as a DD, so I prefer the extra goodies over a more bare model, mostly for track use, as the Scion is.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:23 PM   #34
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Yep, a solid 2 lbs or so.
per corner? lol
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:31 PM   #35
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per corner? lol
Maybe. The last set of balasts I held weighed <1lb each.. bulbs are more or less the same. The bixenon part probably adds a little weight too since it contains a tiny motor I believe. I've never taken bixenon projectors apart so I'm not sure on that part.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:53 PM   #36
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BRZ is a better value, IMHO, but the difference is almost negligible. I loled at the third option and even more so when I saw people voted BRZ 2:1.

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Before you FR-Sers jumps ship, consider that it is a $1315 difference. A grand isn't chump change. OEM Navs are normally mediocre, and HIDs are more bling than function. That money could put you into a good set of rims, or put towards a great set of rims (Volks). Not to mention that will put you half way towards a great set of coilovers, or one hell of a stereo system that would put the BRZ's to shame.

So don't stress out too much.
If it was just Nav and HIDs it would be worth the cost if that is what you want. I like the BRZ more myself, but I don't need Nav or HID.

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Sticking with FR-S:
1. Less expensive
2. Lighter weight
3. Don't care for HID / Navagation
4. Preference in suspension setup for the FR-S because I plan on keeping the suspension stock until time to replace components from wear.
5. Availability - the BRZ will be sold in a much more limited quantity than the FR-S = MUCH longer wait time to get one. Subaru themselves have said they want the BRZ to be a rarer sight than the FR-S on the roads.
6. Subaru dealership - only one, way far away : plenty of Toyota/Scion dealership close by in comparison.
No# 6 is what gets me the most. I could wait, weight difference and price is small. But the nearest dealership is well over an hour. Annoying.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:59 PM   #37
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Greatly prefer the FR-S exterior.
Greatly prefer the BRZ interior (want leather/alcantara).
WTF, Toyobaru.

Im with You, love the exterior, but prefer the interior of the Brz Premium.To me the FRS interior looks ricey with the red accents on the seats, just a bit too teenage for me.

I have to make an argument, for an extra 1300 the brz do come with more then just HID and Navigation, those are just the main two options that we look at. I believe we get fog lights and etc. (reference me)

BRZ selling point to me is Overall Nicer Interior, HID, good
FRS Selling point is Cheaper, exterior looks a little bit better.

I am young (23), not interested in tracking the car a lot, maybe 2-4 a year. Main point for me to buy the car, is to serve the purpose as a car and a panty dropper.

the final factor will be Financing rate

Right now, i think i would get the BRZ > FRS because of quality. The FRS is Cheaper but thats because it looks cheap.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:03 PM   #38
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For sure BRZ seems like it's a better deal with the HIDs, an better stereo. I still do like the FR-S looks better though.

Perrin is getting on board with the BRZ/FR-S?!?!

Most exciting moment of this thread, right here.
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They are the same size and shape, just the bumpers are different.



I wouldn't say "tuned for over steer". Most reviewers have mentioned that they cannot distinguish any suspension differences in between the two.



Right, one buys for what their needs are. I for one, want it as a DD, so I prefer the extra goodies over a more bare model, mostly for track use, as the Scion is.
It's funny to see members make that much of a deal for the HID's to begin with. Baking the headlights with the FX-R IVs and you'll looking around $400 maybe less if you jump on a group buy.

TBH, who gives a shit about HIDs! You guys need to stop overhyping it!
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FR-S!

HIDs and NAVI!! That's not much to say about that, not much of a bargain. HIDs can be installed on the FR-S! Plus, I dont like either design of Scion or Subaru's NAVI/Stereo. Swapping that as well. Going to rebadge as too! Toyota!!!!

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FR-S!

HIDs and NAVI!! That's not much to say about that, not much of a bargain. HIDs can be installed on the FR-S! Plus, I dont like either design of Scion or Subaru's NAVI/Stereo. Swapping that as well. Going to rebadge as too! Toyota!!!!

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