FRS vs BRZ pricing. Are you In or out?

[ZDan]

Greatly prefer the FR-S exterior.
Greatly prefer the BRZ interior (want leather/alcantara).

WTF, Toyobaru.

Might end up getting another used S2000, though I really want a fixed-roof and +2 utility.

[rcm47]

Still getting the FR-S!

[Draco-REX]

Before you FR-Sers jumps ship, consider that it is a $1315 difference. A grand isn't chump change. OEM Navs are normally mediocre, and HIDs are more bling than function. That money could put you into a good set of rims, or put towards a great set of rims (Volks). Not to mention that will put you half way towards a great set of coilovers, or one hell of a stereo system that would put the BRZ's to shame.

So don't stress out too much.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by rcm47

Still getting the FR-S!

I want the cheaper one! Track days and weekend races don't care for HIDs, feel good seats and a nicer stereos!

[86fanatic]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

I wouldn't want the nav either way, but I would like the HID's. Still probably not enough to convince me to get the BRZ over the FR-S. Even though I do consider it a better value, I think the FR-S would still get my vote based on USA pricing/options.

It is a pretty close comparison though for pricing.

Jeff

Same, HIDs are the one thing I would want. Once you have a car with HIDs it's actually kind of hard to go back. They do make a pretty big difference at night.

But they aren't worth more then a grand. They should be a 300-400 factory/dealer option, or if you really want them you can get bulbs and housings for cheaper on the aftermarket.

I have a feeling Scion will open up options in the future. Once Subaru brings out the stripped BRZ which competes more directly with the FR-S I think the FR-S will also offer more options to compete with the BRZ.

[Turbowned]

I think Subaru will have to think twice about making these "limited availability". They're gonna cannabalize FR-S sales sooo bad!

[Verge]

Originally Posted by Jayp

I'm sticking with the FR-S. Main reason, the only Subaru dealership sucks here. What I'm hoping now is that most of Scion's accessories for the FR-S will match what the BRZ has standard, which I don't see that hard to do.

Amen also we should get a group buy for las vegas scion folks. Maybe get some deals on accessories or something maybe waive doc fee? xD

[meanmud]

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

FR-S looks better.
FR-S is simpler (don't need a tv screen in my sports car).
FR-S is lighter (although somewhat trivial - it's worth more to me then fancy features).
FR-S is tuned for over steer.


$1200 for HIDs and navigation isn't what I call a screaming deal.

Yup ^^^^^

I don't want either of them anyway! HID's carry more weight, right?

[Dave-ROR]

The Scion red accents, ugly white tach and headlights that stick out past the bumper all add to the HIDs for me. The Nav is whatever, but I have a lot of dislike for Toyota/Scion's design choices on this one. Even Toyota used the black tach in the higher models.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by meanmud

Yup ^^^^^

I don't want either of them anyway! HID's carry more weight, right?

Yep, a solid 2 lbs or so.

[Jeff Lange]

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

Same, HIDs are the one thing I would want. Once you have a car with HIDs it's actually kind of hard to go back. They do make a pretty big difference at night.

But they aren't worth more then a grand. They should be a 300-400 factory/dealer option, or if you really want them you can get bulbs and housings for cheaper on the aftermarket.

I have a feeling Scion will open up options in the future. Once Subaru brings out the stripped BRZ which competes more directly with the FR-S I think the FR-S will also offer more options to compete with the BRZ.

We'll see. Typically from Toyota/Lexus, HID's are about a $900 option by themselves and nav is about $1900, so that makes it somewhat of a good value to me. Having done a factory HID setup in my Lexus, I know that doing it after the fact can cost at least double that, so getting it from the factory is a much more appealing idea to me.

Still, if I got the FR-S, I would probably be ordering the European LHD HID/LED lights. It would cost as much as getting a BRZ, and I still wouldn't have nav (which I don't want, but still).

Jeff

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

We'll see. Typically from Toyota/Lexus, HID's are about a $900 option by themselves and nav is about $1900, so that makes it somewhat of a good value to me. Having done a factory HID setup in my Lexus, I know that doing it after the fact can cost at least double that, so getting it from the factory is a much more appealing idea to me.

Still, if I got the FR-S, I would probably be ordering the European LHD HID/LED lights. It would cost as much as getting a BRZ, and I still wouldn't have nav (which I don't want, but still).

Jeff

Most people consider HID conversions to be the cheap $50 PnP junk.

The real HID setups are worth it IMO, PnP.. no.

[igorot]

the scion badge on the steering wheel was enough to make me look the to the brz in the beginning

[86fanatic]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

We'll see. Typically from Toyota/Lexus, HID's are about a $900 option by themselves and nav is about $1900, so that makes it somewhat of a good value to me. Having done a factory HID setup in my Lexus, I know that doing it after the fact can cost at least double that, so getting it from the factory is a much more appealing idea to me.

Still, if I got the FR-S, I would probably be ordering the European LHD HID/LED lights. It would cost as much as getting a BRZ, and I still wouldn't have nav (which I don't want, but still).

Jeff

Yeah the thing with Toyota is they usually throw it into a package, so the price is inflated for the actual HIDs.