Best Turbo kit / kits to stay away from?

[Boss Paco]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I like this guy. I would throw the P&L kit and their Precision turbos in there somewhere as well though.

But PTE still makes journal bearing turbos and therefore that makes them shit! Duh! Obviously JB turbos don't perform.

[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

Just a slight skew of opinion. I think PTuning's quality and attention to detail is Excellent, not just decent. And it's not more setup for Highway pullers. It's optimized for track bruising. They focus on "trackability" first then everything else.

2nd this but I am Bias so its hard to be an independent reviewer. Plenty of track/autox videos going around as well as dyno plots. Transient response is there and ready for duty any any given notice!

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Boss Paco

But PTE still makes journal bearing turbos and therefore that makes them shit! Duh! Obviously JB turbos don't perform.

I am sure P&L would throw a Garrett on for anyone that asks. Would SBD do that?

[Boss Paco]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I am sure P&L would throw a Garrett on for anyone that asks. Would SBD do that?

Dunno. Why not ask? Seems pretty simple for me. I do have an extra 3076. Can I join the cool kids club if I slap it on?

[Dipstik-sportech]

Originally Posted by Boss Paco

But PTE still makes journal bearing turbos and therefore that makes them shit! Duh! Obviously JB turbos don't perform.

Um did I miss something? PTE make both journal and ball bearing turbos.

The Frozen North

[Boss Paco]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

Um did I moss something? PTE make both journal and ball bearing turbos.

The Frozen North

Just that the experts here seem to think JB turbos are crap tech and BB is the only way to be cool. I hope the people who read threads like these aren't too gullible. I do have a PTE6466 so I am aware of their BB offerings.

[Dipstik-sportech]

And I run a pte5858 jb and have no issues with spool or lag as my dyno sheet in the fbm thread can attest

The Frozen North

[Dephective]

First off, ANY kit that requires you to modify the structural integrity of a key piece of safety equipment should be thrown out of the equation if the car is going to be driven on the street at all. If that's not a concern for you, then you have worse problems than trying to decide on a FI kit. Take 2 seconds and google some evidence of how well crash bars hold up in a frontal impact after material is removed, or the whole bar is replaced by a shitty piece of steel tubing that people advertise as "drift bars" or weight saving.

Secondly, I'm a fan of PTunings kit for 2 reasons. One, heat reduction in the bay. Two, center of gravity is maintained, as well as placing the weight further back and not at a polar end of the vehicle, meaning better handling characteristics. 2 very big cons, however, happen to be cost and the fact that it doesn't even come with a manifold. They expect you to shell out nearly $6k and risk ingesting your stock cat from the shit factory manifold into the hotside (wtf), or come out of pocket to buy one of the aftermarket headers that mount in the stock location. By far the most costly kit. I really want to like this kit because it's the only one on the market with this location, but I can't stomach that price tag. I am even considering piecing one together in this location.

Thirdly, don't be sold on "base kits". They are not complete and you will still need to pieces that aren't included, which brings your price up. Sure it will run, but it will never run right. Buy the correct equipment the first time, and forget it. Assuming its a quality kit and fitment is right, your only worry should be a proper tune. That is by far the most important part of any kit you purchase.

I am in the market for a turbo setup ( I don't want to say kit, because none of them out there are what I am looking for) and will most likely end up designing my own, piecing it together, and paying someone to fabricate the hot parts. If anyone can point me in the direction of a kit that has WAIC, rear/bottom mount gtx28 with a mechanical pump with a pressure gauge inline, includes a manifold, and doesn't end up costing nearly 10k in the end, I'm all game.

[kmbkk]

I'm happy with my Treadstone kit. I have over 10K miles and no issues.

[FAER]

Originally Posted by Dephective

First off, ANY kit that requires you to modify the structural integrity of a key piece of safety equipment should be thrown out of the equation if the car is going to be driven on the street at all. If that's not a concern for you, then you have worse problems than trying to decide on a FI kit. Take 2 seconds and google some evidence of how well crash bars hold up in a frontal impact after material is removed, or the whole bar is replaced by a shitty piece of steel tubing that people advertise as "drift bars" or weight saving.

Secondly, I'm a fan of PTunings kit for 2 reasons. One, heat reduction in the bay. Two, center of gravity is maintained, as well as placing the weight further back and not at a polar end of the vehicle, meaning better handling characteristics. 2 very big cons, however, happen to be cost and the fact that it doesn't even come with a manifold. They expect you to shell out nearly $6k and risk ingesting your stock cat from the shit factory manifold into the hotside (wtf), or come out of pocket to buy one of the aftermarket headers that mount in the stock location. By far the most costly kit. I really want to like this kit because it's the only one on the market with this location, but I can't stomach that price tag. I am even considering piecing one together in this location.

Thirdly, don't be sold on "base kits". They are not complete and you will still need to pieces that aren't included, which brings your price up. Sure it will run, but it will never run right. Buy the correct equipment the first time, and forget it. Assuming its a quality kit and fitment is right, your only worry should be a proper tune. That is by far the most important part of any kit you purchase.

I am in the market for a turbo setup ( I don't want to say kit, because none of them out there are what I am looking for) and will most likely end up designing my own, piecing it together, and paying someone to fabricate the hot parts. If anyone can point me in the direction of a kit that has WAIC, rear/bottom mount gtx28 with a mechanical pump with a pressure gauge inline, includes a manifold, and doesn't end up costing nearly 10k in the end, I'm all game.

So really what you're saying is you have Ferrari tastes and a Hyundai budget.

When I find a kit that runs on unicorn shit and Obama accomplishments I'm all game too

[P&L Motorsports]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I am sure P&L would throw a Garrett on for anyone that asks. Would SBD do that?

Absolutely. We are open to any custom requests and routinely do things like this.

The only caveat would be that we would need the car here to fabricate it. The PTE turbos are slightly longer front-to-back due to the turbine housing design, so the Garrett would not be a direct swap dimensionally.

-Ty

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by FAER

When I find a kit that runs on unicorn shit and Obama accomplishments I'm all game too

TR3/FA20Club kit?

[FAER]

Originally Posted by King Tut

TR3/FA20Club kit?

Sadly i fell for that and am fabricating everything except manifold and downpipe

[Dephective]

Originally Posted by FAER

So really what you're saying is you have Ferrari tastes and a Hyundai budget.

Uh, no. In fact it's not very difficult considering its a simple 4-1 manifold that mounts to stock location and a 3" exit from the hotside. The WAIC is similarly priced to custom A/A setups, yet immensely more efficient than a simple bar and plate core. You're only price increase over a "standard" kit for this kind of setup would be the cost of a pressure gauge and the oil pump. Hardly a Ferrari taste and Hyundai budget. Regardless of whether I have the money to blow or not, I'm not going to pay for more than something is worth.

I am, however, lazy and would rather complain about it until someone does it and I can pay them. #merica

Edit: Also the water pump for said WAIC. That costs money too.