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bren5279 05-10-2014 01:10 AM

Best Turbo kit / kits to stay away from?
 
Hey guys, sorry if this is kind of a noob question, but with so many turbo kits on the market now for the twins, its hard to get a good idea of the best/worst kits without individually reading all of the feedback on every single one, so heres my question:

Is there a generally agreed best turbo kit that is the best bang for the buck? best power gains with base map? best quality? also is there any kits to stay away from?

Also if you have one kit that you wish you would've gone with a different one?

-Edit- Ok so sounds like two of the top contenders are JDL and SPD, anyone have any advice on JDL UEL vs JDL twin scroll vs SPD?

So heres the best quote that arguably sums it up:
JDL / FBM / MAP with gtx28 upgrade if you want quality, and response. ~300whp or so.

PTuning is decent quality but more setup for gt30 frame plus. Highway pullers apply within. 400whp and beyond.

Greddy / SPD are journal bearing. Cool if you're still living in 1996. Pass.

AVO if you're the sort of person that would buy bc coilovers, rota wheels. Journal bearing copied turbo. Pass.

fa20club if you're not put off by the millions of bad feedback. Pass.)

R2RO 05-10-2014 01:18 AM

I wouldn't say stay away from any, they're all different and are suited for different drivers and power output. Are you looking for a Turbo with an UEL or EL manifold? Personally Im going to go with a JDL Single Scroll UEL turbo kit, this kit is also available in EL as well and run around $4049 best bang for your buck.

bren5279 05-10-2014 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by R2RO (Post 1727469)
I wouldn't say stay away from any, they're all different and are suited for different drivers and power output. Are you looking for a Turbo with an UEL or EL manifold? Personally Im going to go with a JDL Single Scroll UEL turbo kit, this kit is also available in EL as well and run around $4049 best bang for your buck.

Haven't looked into the advantages of the el or eul manis yet, but I was leaning toward the twin scrolls since I assume it'd spool faster. Looking to go about 250-300hp possibly 350 so I have a feeling internals will be appropriate.

lexusb3 05-10-2014 02:00 AM

Fa20club is a good kit and in my sig can see the power I make :)

Boss Paco 05-10-2014 02:10 AM

I love my SBD kit for a stockish car. On sale too.

To elaborate; on stock everything but a catback I made 248 on 8 psi with a very linear and smooth power band. After finishing my exhaust out, a 60mm Invidia setup with the N1 catback, the car made 278 on 10psi. After we put the boost contol solenoid and reflashed it, my boost comes in more abruptly and makes it feel stronger in the midrange.

I like the fact this kit is nearly all inclusive and the price makes it a helluva bargain. Soon I'll be on a flex fuel tune with more boost and timing. Hope to get near the 400 mark. This after I get my new clutch.

jflogerzi 05-10-2014 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bren5279 (Post 1727521)
Haven't looked into the advantages of the el or eul manis yet, but I was leaning toward the twin scrolls since I assume it'd spool faster. Looking to go about 250-300hp possibly 350 so I have a feeling internals will be appropriate.

twin scroll is a waste. IMO Fullblown, JDL, and MAP make the best turbo kits.

husker741 05-10-2014 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lexusb3 (Post 1727531)
Fa20club is a good kit and in my sig can see the power I make :)

Don't try to brainwash this guy too.

OP, stay far, FAR away from FA20Club. If you wanna know why, just do a quick search. I personally would never do business with a vendor who has been banned.

slicktop 05-10-2014 02:34 AM

Here we go again!


BTW, stay far FAR away from FA20club/TR3 Performance.

lexusb3 05-10-2014 02:39 AM

Just posting my opinion. I have the fa20club kit and it works great no problems 30,000 miles. I have dyno videos and all just pm me I'll always be around :) good luck with your choice. A lot of kits out there on the market

bren5279 05-10-2014 02:39 AM

So since I don't really have access to tuners that Id trust around me, which would be the best/highest base map supplied kit

husker741 05-10-2014 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bren5279 (Post 1727572)
So since I don't really have access to tuners that Id trust around me, which would be the best/highest base map supplied kit

I'm gonna say this nicely because others won't... You gotta search. Use the sub forum for forced induction. There's a ton of info in there. You will learn who to stay away from, what power you can expect, and other useful stuff.

Sportsguy83 05-10-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bren5279 (Post 1727572)
So since I don't really have access to tuners that Id trust around me, which would be the best/highest base map supplied kit

@jamesm will do you a really nice reliable/powerful remote tune. I call him the Wizard.

You can read reviews in the vendor review section to find out which kits to stay away from.

Quality kits are FBM and JDL.

Model Citizen 05-10-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lexusb3 (Post 1727531)
Fa20club is a good kit and in my sig can see the power I make :)

You either are dumb as a rock or are tonis cousin.

Its been pretty obvious at this point that the only people toni treats right are locals, pretty much for the purpose of having internet advertising to draw in new suckers, and yet here you are trying to get another person fucked by him.

Despite that it has been demonstrated he has went through a name change himself in the middle of his 10 year history, despite that it has been demonstrated his history of pitch tent shops for new platforms that each were met with failure and screwed customers, despite the bankruptcies linked to him, despite that you in person saw what went on with the frs300 car and the shape it was returned in after nearly a year, despite the many threads here from people that received nothing, partial orders, significantly delayed orders (probably to push back timeframes on buyer protections), shit products shown up (the woode thread is the best example since the guy had to pretty much reweld the whole goddamn kit), and god forbid an international buyer purchase a kit those poor souls may as well have put a hungry koala up their ass.

It really boils down to two things, 1) anybody stupid enough to still function with good intentions as mouthpiece for a business that has shown what fa20club/toni/doyen has demonstrated chances are doesn't have the functioning braincells in their head to survive with a 500 hp car, and yet you're still alive and well. 2) A normal person would be ashamed of promoting a scumbag company and yet you continue to do so, a normal person would realize they are part of a con and correct their future actions not to draw others in.

Basically either you have legitimate cognitive issues to the point where acquiring a drivers license and being a functional adult is out of the question, or you are in on it.

maxjedi 05-10-2014 09:41 AM

I really like the PTUNING, JDL and MAP kits, but I chose SBD because:

1. a tune with electronic boost control is included
2. i only care about flat torque curve, not peak hp numbers
3. i want to keep stock fuel system, stock exhaust, stock washer bottle, headlight washers, and maybe even stock clutch
4. i need to have easy access to the air filter for maintenance - removing the bumper every 3 month would be a pain

So PTUNING kit didn't qualify because it removes washer bottle, MAP kit didn't qualify because it places ait filter inside the bumper. I really considered the JDL kit for some time, but I don't have any local tuners, and JDL doesn't provide ANY basemap. I didn't want to leave my car undriveable after installation until i arrange some remote custom tuning, so i went with SBD. It's not installed yet, waiting for some parts to arrive, planning to do it later this month. I'll do a review after that.


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