Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[AN]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Plastidip. Looks like it came from the factory.

Nice .. what about the big trim that runs the width of the dash ? Too much red ?
Some trims in the new MX-5 Club come with colored trims ... looks good IMHO ...

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by AN

Nice .. what about the big trim that runs the width of the dash ? Too much red ?

Some trims in the new MX-5 Club come with colored trims ... looks good IMHO ...

I was worried it would be too much so I went from silver to the black.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Just did a test like @nlowell. I'm currently at 106 F did two really long pulls plus a couple small ones and the thermal sensor did not trip. I'm thinking this is working.

On a side note look what I did this week. (I know this is not for everyone.)

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Wish I had a brz. That center console is much more high end looking. And the subie badge looks better than scion. I'm a subie guy at heart after owning both a wrx and sti. When I bought my FRS is June of 2012 they were the only ones available though.

[TM]

Originally Posted by Robftss

SPM / WOT mod.

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De-solder as shown.... attach one wire to the switch tab, another to the de-soldered wire. Connect the two wires with a switch of your chosing.

There are hundreds of ways to enable/disable the WOT switch for activation management. I'm going to leave this as a DIY mod, the location and type of SPM switch (toggle, momentary button, press 'on'/ press 'off, micro switch, even a relay activated by another source etc...) is endless.

Myself, I would position the WOT bracket so pedal activation is right to the floor. Perhaps secure some cellfoam rubber to partially stop the pedal bar before WOT activation and provide a change in pedal resistance, like old throttle cabled cars with a secondary butterfly valve that you can feel with the gas pedal. It is a very busy place on a road course... flipping a switch here and there will be a distraction. Or a well positioned KERS style steering wheel button @ 2 o'clock.

My 2 cents.

Thanks for the info!

I emailed you about my idea, but I'll put it here in case anyone else is interested.

I want to wire in two different activation methods into the system. One would be a relay that permanently turns on/off the WOT switch (similar to @Jac's super pursuit mode) and one that is pushed activated by either holding the button down or on a timed relay ~1-2 minutes (push-to-pass mode).

I was thinking about swapping out my center console switch assembly with the automatic version with the sport/snow mode buttons:

• Snow mode - turns off (and on) the WOT switch (kind of makes sense, no need for boost if it's snowing lol)
• Sport mode - when snow mode is on, it'll turn on temporary Push-to-Pass for x seconds.

Now that @Robftss mentioned it, I might have to rethink where I put the push-to-pass button. It might be an inconvenient spot that can distract me from keeping my eyes on the road. But then again, the WOT switch would only be off (snow mode) on the tracks, and I would only need to press the push-to-pass switch (sport mode) while on a straight.

This is just an idea right now. It might change if @Sojhinn and @nlowell's cooling mods can keep it from overheating for ~30-minute track sessions.

[shif7i7down]

Originally Posted by Target70

sounds pretty good, but I think the output is kind of lowball. Just going by shiv's dual dump dyno, running 215+ on his 93 tune that is tame enough for 91. From what I have seen, e85 adds about 20hp/20tq. I don't think 235 is too high to hope for, so 270 crank before factoring in the diff.

On another note, has anyone tried removing that black fake grille piece on the frs fender garnish? It is not very big, and I will still have to cut the fender behind the garnish to vent, but the design looks functional. As soon as I figure out how to pull off the front marker light trim I'll go ahead and cut it to flow for the cooling duct too.

Yes,you're right the potential hp that i posted are at the low end of the spectrum of possibility, because i was trying to show what the esc + Fd is capable of.

Originally Posted by raven1231

Hmmm...from my understanding a different FD can result in a loss in 1/4 mile time. This being the case however only if it causes you to shift sooner than you usually would, putting you in a higher gear.

It's the exact opposite of what you're thinking. A shorter FD (higher number) Will result in a faster et. Unless of course you shift like a grandma lol...

[Luckrider]

Originally Posted by TM

Thanks for the info!

I emailed you about my idea, but I'll put it here in case anyone else is interested.

I want to wire in two different activation methods into the system. One would be a relay that permanently turns on/off the WOT switch (similar to @Jac's super pursuit mode) and one that is pushed activated by either holding the button down or on a timed relay ~1-2 minutes (push-to-pass mode).

I was thinking about swapping out my center console switch assembly with the automatic version with the sport/snow mode buttons:

• Snow mode - turns off (and on) the WOT switch (kind of makes sense, no need for boost if it's snowing lol)
• Sport mode - when snow mode is on, it'll turn on temporary Push-to-Pass for x seconds.

Now that @Robftss mentioned it, I might have to rethink where I put the push-to-pass button. It might be an inconvenient spot that can distract me from keeping my eyes on the road. But then again, the WOT switch would only be off (snow mode) on the tracks, and I would only need to press the push-to-pass switch (sport mode) while on a straight.

This is just an idea right now. It might change if @Sojhinn and @nlowell's cooling mods can keep it from overheating for ~30-minute track sessions.

Next time you are in the car just reach down without looking and you will most likely find that the those buttons are very easy to find without distracting much.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

Yes,you're right the potential hp that i posted are at the low end of the spectrum of possibility, because i was trying to show what the esc + Fd is capable of.



It's the exact opposite of what you're thinking. A shorter FD (higher number) Will result in a faster et. Unless of course you shift like a grandma lol...

I realize it should be the case, just remember with the 350z it actually made it have a slower 1/4 due to needing to shift an extra time. Then again the gearing with this car is completely different.

[Talus1]

Originally Posted by TM

If only I saw this earlier. I was showing the Phantom ESC to people at the GTA meet this past weekend in Toronto.

Ya, that would have been good. Sorry to have missed you.

[shif7i7down]

Originally Posted by raven1231

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I realize it should be the case, just remember with the 350z it actually made it have a slower 1/4 due to needing to shift an extra time. Then again the gearing with this car is completely different.

If that is the case then this is the first time I've ever heard of a shorter fd making a car slower O_o ..not saying it's impossible it's just that it goes against the laws of physics as far as leverage is concern.
Unless that 350z is already highly boosted and had allot of hp already at which point a short fd would do more harm then good as you've stated.
For instance, if i had 500whp i would actually go with a taller fd, because the speed at which you have to shift for a car that powerful would be crazy stupid fast.

In the end it's the limitation of human reaction that would cause a high powered car to run slower with shorter gears and not necessary the gearing itself.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by fenton

Wish I had a brz. That center console is much more high end looking. And the subie badge looks better than scion. I'm a subie guy at heart after owning both a wrx and sti. When I bought my FRS is June of 2012 they were the only ones available though.

Wifey said she needed dual air. Could only go with BRZ at the time I bought.

[keen as]

Just had a drive of the first RHD phantom in Australia. ---- Gums' car ---

Gums and I flashed the updated tune, thanks Shiv.
I was in the car for the first 10mins of its boosted life.
Noticeable improved, smooth power. It is faster through the gears. It is a good sensation to go through 3rd gear a lot faster. Good improvement of low rev torque, and the power keeps coming at high revs.

The readout initially had 28.5V. After 5 mins, showed 25V. After another 30mins, showed 28.5V again.

I am excited to see if power increases as the batteries condition.

[shif7i7down]

Guess what day it is.
Phantom Friday, whooat whooat

Sounds way better then that hump day camel.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

Guess what day it is.
Phantom Friday, whooat whooat

Sounds way better then that hump day camel.

Can't wait to get my controller back and test it so I can order the 1.5 dump conversion!

[Gary in NJ]

Originally Posted by keen as

The readout initially had 28.5V. After 5 mins, showed 25V. After another 30mins, showed 28.5V again.

Sounds like the controller went into thermal protection mode. This reduced voltage protects the dump pack.

Some users are testing various cooling aids. As soon as there is conclusive results I'm sure there will be guidelines posted.