SOUTHERN ONTARIO GROUP BUY (interest check)

[ahquit]

Was there any mention of preferable financing rates? The default rates on the website seems to be 5.15% @ 72 months, 2.9% @ 48 months, etc.

[rawbz]

I'd be interested as well subject to test drive! 4 to 5% discount would be pretty good actually if canada does that whole pure pricing thing as well?

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by ahquit

Was there any mention of preferable financing rates? The default rates on the website seems to be 5.15% @ 72 months, 2.9% @ 48 months, etc.

Not everyone will need financing - the group buy price has to be set on a level playing field so those not requiring financing aren't subsidizing those that do.

[DHarry]

Hey guys,

I already put a deposit down in Brimell Toyota but I'm willing to do the group buy. So I am interested. Thanks.

[Veovius]

Tempting, but I'm more interested in the BRZ....

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Veovius

Tempting, but I'm more interested in the BRZ....

Until you see the price, their low production numbers (and WRX pricing) suggest the markup here will be truly nasty.

[Heero]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

He told me on the phone Saturday morning that two guys were coming in on the weekend to sign papers.

Ah, ok. 1 of those was supposed to be me! ^^

[ahquit]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Not everyone will need financing - the group buy price has to be set on a level playing field so those not requiring financing aren't subsidizing those that do.

If that's the case then they shouldn't offer discounts on accessories since not everyone needs those either. I guess what I'm saying is that financing is another product available for purchase, so it can't at least hurt to ask the question. If it comes down to having to choose one or the other, then in the immortal words of Spock, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

[veewonwon]

I'm definitely interested in this, do need a test drive to confirm, otherwise all good.

Model: FR-S 6MT
Finance: lease/finance depends on rates or cash
Insurance: no issue
Colour: red or white
Options interested: HID, fog lights if available, and price.

[fungkaic]

Hi All,

I really like this idea of group buy. However, I am concerning about the logistic of buying this car. Assuming we get say 10 people and ONE dealer agreed to make this deal, each one of us has different preference on the car. Let assume the dealer give us 5% discount on the car, we still need to take other service from the dealer. For example, I want a corrosion coding on my car. This option is commonly offered in Dow Valley North Toyota and can be free if you negotiated for it. Some of you may think its unnecessary. With this group buy, would we pay for other services that eventually make this offer less valuable?

May I propose that we get ONE dealer, who is willing to do this deal. The dealer gives us the code to take this advantage, ie to show that we are buying as a group. Also we don't have to show up all together. In the meantime, we can still take advantage of the deal.

Standard options and their pricing are not my concern, as $1300 off is a really good discount.

I do agree that Don Valley would be a tough dealer to offer discount, as they are big and gets traffic. However, they do offer pretty good customers service both in sales and replacement service for defects in cars (Camry). We can, I suggest we go with this dealer.

I am up for this group buy, condition on test drive and insurance, which can be a bitch.

Thank you for initiating this effect.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by ahquit

If that's the case then they shouldn't offer discounts on accessories since not everyone needs those either. I guess what I'm saying is that financing is another product available for purchase, so it can't at least hurt to ask the question. If it comes down to having to choose one or the other, then in the immortal words of Spock, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

Assuming we get say 10 people and ONE dealer agreed to make this deal, each one of us has different preference on the car. Let assume the dealer give us 5% discount on the car, we still need to take other service from the dealer. For example, I want a corrosion coding on my car. This option is commonly offered in Dow Valley North Toyota and can be free if you negotiated for it. Some of you may think its unnecessary. With this group buy, would we pay for other services that eventually make this offer less valuable?

If dealers are willing to give a total discount of say 5% then if they discount the financing to for example 1/2 the buyers in our group they will only be able to offer say a 4% discount to those of us who want to pay cash in order to make up the difference - that is the problem. Everyone needs to get the same monetary value on the discount, regardless of options/financing chosen.

[Sport-Tech]

Useful advice from Dimman in the Vancouver buy thread:

Plus make sure everyone is financially sorted and serious. If it goes from 7 to 3 people right at the beginning because of credit issues, or people not being as interested as they say the sales reps won't be as flexible.

And don't let them **** around with fees and such. Or 'policy'. EVERYTHING is negotiable, and they also make some 'hidden' money on sales as well (in terms of overall performance, etc...).

7 sales to a single rep in one day is HUGE. Always remind the rep that you know how big of a deal this is to them.

If anyone has info on how their commissions work that would be handy ahead of time too.

[Dimman]

^ Also think about what I said about friends/family/random strangers interested in other Scion (or Subaru depending) models that can all be grouped in at one dealer.

[Sport-Tech]

It looks like this group is DOA...