New scions

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by airjonny

It would help the badge if they had 2 performance cars and made a hot hatch. But car makers haven't listened to their young buyers since the 60s mustang. So I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a mini SUV that's uglier than the Juke, some funky box thing with tons of gimmicks and a hot hatch that really isn't quite one ala Veloster (good looking, missed the mark in performance).

The problem is that the young buyers BUY these cars in college and thus they see these cars like the xB as the cars that youth want.

Only some of us are enthusiasts who hate the unexciting nature of these uber-practical grocery getters.

[airjonny]

Originally Posted by SirBrass

The problem is that the young buyers BUY these cars in college and thus they see these cars like the xB as the cars that youth want.

Only some of us are enthusiasts who hate the unexciting nature of these uber-practical grocery getters.

Yea the average age is like in the mid 30s which is pretty good. Which was surprising to me because I haven't seen anybody young in the new ones with the FRS being the exception.

In my area, I see alot of older people in xBs, including 2 neighbors that I would put at around 50 yrs old. I have a few friends that drove Tc's, but they got them used.

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by husker741

Omg I'd be furious. Fucking dumb people. No respect for our damn RACECARS.

My RACECAR is fwd and says Honda on it.

[Sasquachulator]

Scion has cars that don't exist as Toyota (or exist as Toyota NOT in N/A)
It makes no sense to create overlap cars with their Toyota counterparts. Look at the xD, its pretty much a more square Yaris. No purpose for that car to exist as long as the more well known Yaris exists.


Same would be for a tC Sedan, it's practically almost a Corolla Coupe. The front ends almost look the same.

Badgeneering cars is a bad bad bad idea, look at GM. They had like 3 brands with the same cars and they ended up shuttering 2 of them because it makes no sense.


So they'd likely have a brand new xB (more like the first gen would make the most sense) as one of the three.

If they were making a sedan, perhaps a stretched RWD FRS sedan variant might find some owners. Who can say no to a inexpensive RWD sedan? I don't think theres any on the market that isn't either a giant muscle car or a luxury car.


I dunno what a third model would be. I'd still be campaigning for a mini truck :P

[Dark]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Let's see...

Scion Supra
Scion Celica GT-Four
Scion MR-2

Anyone else have some onions in here...?



Well, if you drove a NSX would you get upset that when you told people you owned a Honda that they automatically assume Civic, Accord, CR-V, or Pilot?

NSX is an Acura in the states.

[NWFRS]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I would laugh so hard if Toyota put their flagship sports car into the Scion brand. The tears of all of the anti-Scion Toyota diehards would be absolutely delicious.

Hahaha. OMG!

Everyone would start rebadging their Lexus SC400's, IS-F's and Supra's with Scion. :-l

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Scion has cars that don't exist as Toyota (or exist as Toyota NOT in N/A)
It makes no sense to create overlap cars with their Toyota counterparts. Look at the xD, its pretty much a more square Yaris. No purpose for that car to exist as long as the more well known Yaris exists.


Same would be for a tC Sedan, it's practically almost a Corolla Coupe. The front ends almost look the same.

Badgeneering cars is a bad bad bad idea, look at GM. They had like 3 brands with the same cars and they ended up shuttering 2 of them because it makes no sense.


So they'd likely have a brand new xB (more like the first gen would make the most sense) as one of the three.

If they were making a sedan, perhaps a stretched RWD FRS sedan variant might find some owners. Who can say no to a inexpensive RWD sedan? I don't think theres any on the market that isn't either a giant muscle car or a luxury car.


I dunno what a third model would be. I'd still be campaigning for a mini truck :P

corolla looks like the tc now. Not the other way around. Tc has a larger displacement engine from the camry. Which they later added to the corolla. The tc was a usdm car that you couldn't get in Japan.... your point about a 4 door tc is null and void.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Scion has cars that don't exist as Toyota (or exist as Toyota NOT in N/A)
It makes no sense to create overlap cars with their Toyota counterparts. Look at the xD, its pretty much a more square Yaris. No purpose for that car to exist as long as the more well known Yaris exists.


Same would be for a tC Sedan, it's practically almost a Corolla Coupe. The front ends almost look the same.

Badgeneering cars is a bad bad bad idea, look at GM. They had like 3 brands with the same cars and they ended up shuttering 2 of them because it makes no sense.


So they'd likely have a brand new xB (more like the first gen would make the most sense) as one of the three.

If they were making a sedan, perhaps a stretched RWD FRS sedan variant might find some owners. Who can say no to a inexpensive RWD sedan? I don't think theres any on the market that isn't either a giant muscle car or a luxury car.


I dunno what a third model would be. I'd still be campaigning for a mini truck :P

GM didn't shatter those brands because of badge engineering, they were shattered because of BAD badge engineering. Many companies use the same platform over and over. The golf platform typically underpins a dozen different cars and VAG has shown no signs of going anywhere.

By having the TC, Matrix, and the Corolla, xD and Yaris, Camry and Solara, they greatly broaden their customer base for a much smaller outlay of money.

I'd be surprised is you could name a mainstream car company that doesn't re-use platforms.

[thatfilipinoguy]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Scion has cars that don't exist as Toyota (or exist as Toyota NOT in N/A)
It makes no sense to create overlap cars with their Toyota counterparts. Look at the xD, its pretty much a more square Yaris. No purpose for that car to exist as long as the more well known Yaris exists.


Same would be for a tC Sedan, it's practically almost a Corolla Coupe. The front ends almost look the same.

Badgeneering cars is a bad bad bad idea, look at GM. They had like 3 brands with the same cars and they ended up shuttering 2 of them because it makes no sense.


So they'd likely have a brand new xB (more like the first gen would make the most sense) as one of the three.

If they were making a sedan, perhaps a stretched RWD FRS sedan variant might find some owners. Who can say no to a inexpensive RWD sedan? I don't think theres any on the market that isn't either a giant muscle car or a luxury car.


I dunno what a third model would be. I'd still be campaigning for a mini truck :P

The xD is known as the Toyota ist in Japan, the first gen xB was known as the BB, the current model is known as the Toyota Corolla Rumion. The tC is called the Toyota Zelas.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by Dark

NSX is an Acura in the states.

I'm well aware of that. Regardless, it's still a shiny and well engineered Honda.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I'm well aware of that. Regardless, it's still a shiny and well engineered Honda.

Much better than saying that Mercedes from 00s was a bad engineered Chrysler.

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[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by NWFRS

Hahaha. OMG!

Everyone would start rebadging their Lexus SC400's, IS-F's and Supra's with Scion. :-l

[Dark]

At first I thought it was a photoshop. WOW.

[Reaper]

Ill bet a small truck, a camry based thing, and something awd...maybe a awd hatch.

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