Let's talk about Tires

[tahdizzle]

I honestly don't see how you can give a comparison of a tire that is not even out or tested yet.

I would agree that for a given purpose the rs3 vs > than the zII. But unless they are just the remaining ware housed zIIs, you can't even get zIIs anymore.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

I honestly don't see how you can give a comparison of a tire that is not even out or tested yet.

I would agree that for a given purpose the rs3 vs > than the zII. But unless they are just the remaining ware housed zIIs, you can't even get zIIs anymore.

I know some guys are still getting ZIIs so thats why I brought it up.
What do you mean a tire that's not out yet?

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

I know some guys are still getting ZIIs so thats why I brought it up.
What do you mean a tire that's not out yet?

In november (thats the word anyway) the new zII star specs should be released.

Which is the comparison he was asking for.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

In november (thats the word anyway) the new zII star specs should be released.

Which is the comparison he was asking for.

I think you mean Z111? The Z11s have been around for a while.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

I think you mean Z111? The Z11s have been around for a while.

Nope, currently you can get zIIs if they are in stock, But dunlop discontinued them for the zII star specs in November.

[itzmik3]

Originally Posted by CSG David

Provided you a tire thread feast brought to you by @CSG Mike

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8391...-z2-vs-rivals/

Game. Set. Match.

not meaning to be a d*ck at all, but those tests were done on a S2000 and we are talking about the FRS/BRZ platform. a car with different suspension geometry along with different weights.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Nope, currently you can get zIIs if they are in stock, But dunlop discontinued them for the zII star specs in November.

Nowhere have I seen where the confirmed replacement will be branded as Z11 "Star Spec", please link me to that info because I am curious.

[tahdizzle]

http://translate.google.com/translat...80%26bih%3D899

its what i got :p

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

Nowhere have I seen where the confirmed replacement will be branded as Z11 "Star Spec", please link me to that info because I am curious.

see above

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by itzmik3

not meaning to be a d*ck at all, but those tests were done on a S2000 and we are talking about the FRS/BRZ platform. a car with different suspension geometry along with different weights.

We've also tested these tires on M3, GTR, 1M, 370Z, 350Z, C6Z06, and FRS/BRZ. Mike also tested a few select tires on 458, GT3, Gallardo, MP4-12C, and R8s as well.

We tell it as it is and data that we've measured over the course for years of tracking and street driving.

If you have any other experiences, please share them as it would benefit the community rather than simply thinking that these annotations are biased.

[itzmik3]

Originally Posted by CSG David

We've also tested these tires on M3, GTR, 1M, 370Z, 350Z, C6Z06, and FRS/BRZ. Mike also tested a few select tires on 458, GT3, Gallardo, MP4-12C, and R8s as well.

We tell it as it is and data that we've measured over the course for years of tracking and street driving.

If you have any other experiences, please share them as it would benefit the community rather than simply thinking that these annotations are biased.

lol so what does my opinion matter if its "game. set. match"?

as someone stated earlier about the presence of the rivals in the autox community and for you guys to knock that its not a great tire.

is this thread talking about the best tire for HPDE, tracking, or time attack?

so in my eyes it isn't a "game. set. match."

i know mike personally and he is an exceptional driver, but not everyone drives like him.

it might be "game. set. match." in the CSG standpoint, but not everyone here is a CSG driver or part of the program.

just saying

[itzmik3]

as for my autox experience.

i love the ad08r's for a car running in the stock classes. they have a very stiff sidewall and even when bubbled it doesn't give a "squishy" feeling.

the toyo's on a prepped brz feels great only when stretched. for anyone who has driven on these tires and experienced the tire squirm that most people talk, then that is partially down to not running the correct tire size.

again those are my opinions

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by itzmik3

lol so what does my opinion matter if its "game. set. match"?

as someone stated earlier about the presence of the rivals in the autox community and for you guys to knock that its not a great tire.

is this thread talking about the best tire for HPDE, tracking, or time attack?

so in my eyes it isn't a "game. set. match."

i know mike personally and he is an exceptional driver, but not everyone drives like him.

it might be "game. set. match." in the CSG standpoint, but not everyone here is a CSG driver or part of the program.

just saying

You're right in a sense that different tires work well in different environments. We'll continue to chat, however, I'm still not convinced Rivals are all that great. I do see S2k drivers seem to favor the Rivals for AutoX as there are drivers who have done back to back runs with Z2 vs. Rivals comparison.

[CSG Mike]

Different tires for different purposes.

E.g., we'll NEVER use a R1R on track, but it's a badass autox tire.