Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread - Page 339 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tenthousanddays · 04-28-2014, 05:57 PM

Yeah... This is awesome. I've read through all 216 pages of this, even the flaming

.

Anyway, I was looking into doing something like this on my last vehicle (2011 Honda CRZ, which I sold about 3 weeks ago, and bought the BRZ the same day) while incorporating a system from a friendly engineer who helped me and several fellow students work on transforming a crappy Plymouth Neon into a Hybrid using his super efficient electric motors. It was several years ago when we toured his shop, but i distinctly remember him mentioning applications of his motors on Superchargers and Turbochargers. I recently got in contact with him with regards to helping develop something for the CRZ, and I got this wonderful picture in return:

The system above uses his high speed brush-less motor and controllers in conjunction with a Borg-Warner S200. I'm pretty curious about the blower and motor specs which Rob uses in the Phantom.

Definitely want to get on this "bandwagon", and am definitely interested in working with Rob and Dan from "eCycle" (manufacture of the above turbo) in developing something even more awesome!

Thoughts?

enwave · 04-28-2014, 06:27 PM

I'm sure after this solution gains more and more traction we'll see Rob/Phantom do different or improved blower/motors, and a lot of companies jump on the bandwagon.

I'm treating my ESC order as an early-adopter purchase and am definitely anticipating upgrades in the future from phantom and potentially other manufacturers. I don't even have mine yet

It's just a fun ride to be on -- I'm sure that eCycle company could be fun too!

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shif7i7down · 04-28-2014, 06:33 PM

Just wanted to share the good news i got from rob.

Your in!

One of the other guys is getting married.

Cheers,

Rob

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robwbright · 04-28-2014, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

Just wanted to share the good news i got from rob.

Your in!

One of the other guys is getting married.

Cheers,

Rob

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Congrats! See, I didn't have to cancel mine after all.

shif7i7down · 04-28-2014, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwbright

Congrats! See, I didn't have to cancel mine after all.

Hehe.. thanks..

07jazzrs5gt86 · 04-28-2014, 07:34 PM

What will be the power difference between the base kit - 1.5 - dual ?
So far my setup is Perrin drop in and TRD cat back
I'm planning a on either oft header or JDL uel with over pipe and catted front pipe and top it off with shiv tune. Wonder what's the possible HP tq gains

Sojhinn · 04-28-2014, 07:48 PM

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fenton · 04-28-2014, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07jazzrs5gt86

What will be the power difference between the base kit - 1.5 - dual ?
So far my setup is Perrin drop in and TRD cat back
I'm planning a on either oft header or JDL uel with over pipe and catted front pipe and top it off with shiv tune. Wonder what's the possible HP tq gains

So far it seems that the exhaust systems and headers add to the bottom end and midrange and provide a smoother curve.

The battery upgrades let you hold more boost so the 1.5 opens up the top end and so does the dual dump if you were to elect for that upgrade.

Also putting the best possible gas in the car let's you run more timing which helps the entire curve.

1.5 dump with 93 octane, headers and exhaust is going to get you between 215 to 220hp and 190 to 200tq.

E85 adds about 20hp and torque.

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robwbright · 04-28-2014, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton

So far it seems that the exhaust systems and headers add to the bottom end and midrange and provide a smoother curve.

The battery upgrades let you hold more boost so the 1.5 opens up the top end and so does the dual dump if you were to elect for that upgrade.

Also putting the best possible gas in the car let's you run more timing which helps the entire curve.

1.5 dump with 93 octane, headers and exhaust is going to get you between 215 to 220hp and 190 to 200tq.

E85 adds about 20hp and torque.

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Queue FastFreedy asking you for multiple dyno charts (that are already posted).

fenton · 04-28-2014, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwbright

Queue FastFreedy asking you for multiple dyno charts (that are already posted).

Already been proven by Shiv!

He made 217 on 92 octane with his standard phantom ESC tune by upgrading the batteries.

I'm hoping to hit the dyno in summer to do some more testing.

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07jazzrs5gt86 · 04-28-2014, 08:33 PM

Is It possible to relocate the dual dump batteries to the rear instead to help with weight distribution?

raven1231 · 04-28-2014, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton

Already been proven by Shiv!

He made 217 on 92 octane with his standard phantom ESC tune by upgrading the batteries.

I'm hoping to hit the dyno in summer to do some more testing.

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Me too! Once my 1.5 conversion is in

07jazzrs5gt86 · 04-28-2014, 08:36 PM

So a dual dump would be 220+ who 200tq

fenton · 04-28-2014, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07jazzrs5gt86

So a dual dump would be 220+ who 200tq

Best case scenario ya. Like I said shiv made 217 with his. Everyone's results will vary.

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04-28-2014, 06:27 PM	#4734
enwave That headunit though... Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited SSM Location: Provo, UT Posts: 520 Thanks: 304 Thanked 297 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm sure after this solution gains more and more traction we'll see Rob/Phantom do different or improved blower/motors, and a lot of companies jump on the bandwagon. I'm treating my ESC order as an early-adopter purchase and am definitely anticipating upgrades in the future from phantom and potentially other manufacturers. I don't even have mine yet It's just a fun ride to be on -- I'm sure that eCycle company could be fun too! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2013 BRZ Limited SSM 6AT Phantom ESC 1.5Dump + E85 + OFH + Q300 Eibach Pro-Kit + Michelin PSS (stock size)

04-28-2014, 07:48 PM	#4739
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04-28-2014, 05:57 PM	#4733
Tenthousanddays Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited Location: Glastonbury CT Posts: 50 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah... This is awesome. I've read through all 216 pages of this, even the flaming . Anyway, I was looking into doing something like this on my last vehicle (2011 Honda CRZ, which I sold about 3 weeks ago, and bought the BRZ the same day) while incorporating a system from a friendly engineer who helped me and several fellow students work on transforming a crappy Plymouth Neon into a Hybrid using his super efficient electric motors. It was several years ago when we toured his shop, but i distinctly remember him mentioning applications of his motors on Superchargers and Turbochargers. I recently got in contact with him with regards to helping develop something for the CRZ, and I got this wonderful picture in return: The system above uses his high speed brush-less motor and controllers in conjunction with a Borg-Warner S200. I'm pretty curious about the blower and motor specs which Rob uses in the Phantom. Definitely want to get on this "bandwagon", and am definitely interested in working with Rob and Dan from "eCycle" (manufacture of the above turbo) in developing something even more awesome! Thoughts?

04-28-2014, 06:33 PM	#4735
shif7i7down Erected Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: frs Location: Wisconsin Posts: 391 Thanks: 69 Thanked 185 Times in 100 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just wanted to share the good news i got from rob. Your in! One of the other guys is getting married. Cheers, Rob Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

04-28-2014, 07:34 PM	#4738
07jazzrs5gt86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Firestorm 86 Location: All Mt Pass Posts: 277 Thanks: 203 Thanked 61 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	What will be the power difference between the base kit - 1.5 - dual ? So far my setup is Perrin drop in and TRD cat back I'm planning a on either oft header or JDL uel with over pipe and catted front pipe and top it off with shiv tune. Wonder what's the possible HP tq gains

04-28-2014, 08:33 PM	#4743
07jazzrs5gt86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Firestorm 86 Location: All Mt Pass Posts: 277 Thanks: 203 Thanked 61 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Is It possible to relocate the dual dump batteries to the rear instead to help with weight distribution?

04-28-2014, 08:36 PM	#4745
07jazzrs5gt86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Firestorm 86 Location: All Mt Pass Posts: 277 Thanks: 203 Thanked 61 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	So a dual dump would be 220+ who 200tq

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