Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Bu-Tang]

Originally Posted by fenton

Oh it went great. We just tidied up the wiring and went back to the smaller starter battery to save some weight.

The car feels amazing as the oft tune continues to learn. Right now I have the dump and a half pack and I think for most people that is going to be the next upgrade. No battery relocate required and you get about 95% the performance of the double dump plus relocate.

The addition of the half pack adds about 7 to 10 HP and one you get the standard system wrote up it is a dead simple upgrade.

Both Rob and butang were very impressed with my cars torque with the oft tune and a dump and a half. The new found torque really makes the car fight for traction in first and second gear.... It is a great feeling.

I'll be taking some videos as soon as I get the track pipe installed.


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Yea Fenton's car felt really good, HUGE progress from the first setup we both had. OFT really brought it to life as well.

Originally Posted by Moletheus

I'm definitely sold on this kit and will be purchasing within the next few months. I am just not sure how the single starter battery will hold up to my amplifiers. I'm pulling a decent amount of power when cranking my music. I have an amp powering a 12" sub and a 4 channel amp for 6 powerful speakers. At least a few hundred watts at any given time.

Will this affect the esc? Will the esc affect my stereo? Any experiences?

Anyone know how many amps the car pulls from the starter battery under load?
How many amps the stock alternator puts out?
How much I can pull from the starter battery?

I am also thinking about going ahead and getting the OFT now. Is there a stock tune I can take advantage of until I get the ESC? I feel like the tune just isn't right. I also have an abundant supply of e85 in my area..

Im Running the single battery(production setup) with a 400W monoblock powering a 10", I have had zero issues and I generally drive with my music up, no lights dimming even when the sub is pounding however I always turn my music down when stopped at lights and close to home(for testing purposes I have cranked it to %80 volume at idle with no idle dip or dimming of lights and with the engine off for short period and still no dimming).

Cant comment on running 2 amps, worst case scenario you run a bigger battery.

FYI, not sure this has been covered but anyone thinking about relocating your battery to the trunk and plan on tracking or hitting the quarter mile, when the track was around here it was mandatory that if there was a battery in the trunk a battery box must be welded in the trunk along with a functional kill switch routed to the exterior.

So if you plan on tracking I would read over your tracks requirements.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by robwbright

Yea, but I'll admit that I'm a late comer to the thread, and I was skeptical until I read about 10 pages...

That said, I've asked Rob to put me on the list for the kit. I want the 1.5 pack for extra power and the convenience of keeping it all under the hood. My sub is already taking up enough of my trunk. LOL.

My father in law is an excellent mechanic and shifter kart racer and was recommending a safe 50 hp NOS setup as an alternative to doing a turbo/SC - because it's cheaper and more easily changed back to stock. Unfortunately, it is a 4th degree misdemeanor to have an open NOS bottle in a car in Ohio... so that went out the window.

When I showed him this thread, I was pleasantly surprised to find that he approved and considered this a reasonable equivalent substitute for the NOS system.

Good thing you ended up going this route. Rob's Phantom ESC is so much better than a 50 shot of NOS in terms of being more safe, less invasive, faster installation, faster un-installation (warranty friendly) , but most importantly the shots never end. No bottle to refill, ever. Congrats on your decision.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Good thing you ended up going this route. Rob's Phantom ESC is so much better than a 50 shot of NOS in terms of being more safe, less invasive, faster installation, faster un-installation (warranty friendly) , but most importantly the shots never end. No bottle to refill, ever. Congrats on your decision.

Yep. Of course, my father in law is of the opinion that he can set up a safe NOS system... and I don't really have much doubt that he could do that.

But I don't like the idea of buying nitrous all the time. And as an attorney I can't be getting 4th degree misdemeanors. Heck, I try to stay away from traffic tickets even though I'm partially immune to them because I know the local prosecutors and judges.

[Sojhinn]

I asked rob about keeping the controller cooler. He has done bench tests and found that best case scenario you can increase the activation time by 50% . I plan on running ducting that you would use for brake Cooling and pointing it at the controller. Let's see what happens!

Heres my plan:

Mount this below (where a typical intercooler would go). While trying not to block the radiator. Like this:



[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Allstar-ALL42141-Single-Plastic-Cooling/dp/B006K8K8HG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397590488&sr=8-1&keywords=brake+duct"]Amazon.com: Allstar ALL42141 Black 5" x 9-3/4" Single Hole Offset Plastic Brake Cooling Duct: Automotive[/ame]

And run ducting similar to this:

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Allstar-ALL42151-Black-Brake-Duct/dp/B006K8KCD6/ref=pd_bxgy_auto_img_y"]Amazon.com: Allstar ALL42151 Black 3" x 10' Brake Duct Hose: Automotive[/ame]

On my BRZ there is a gap that I feel I can run the ducting. And there are enough mounting points to attach the tubing.

Another option is to buy a fog light bezel and just run the tubing from the fog light point. However I like my fog lamps and I am not going to do this. @nlowell does not have the fog lamps and he can probably do this.

[Jac]

Do we have an ETA on the 1.5 Dump Pack upgrade? I'm already getting used to the power and now want moar.

[Jac]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I asked rob about keeping the controller cooler. He has done bench tests and found that best case scenario you can increase the activation time by 50% . I plan on running ducting that you would use for brake Cooling and pointing it at the controller. Let's see what happens!

I'm not sure the problem is getting air into the engine bay, but getting the hot air out.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Jac

Do we have an ETA on the 1.5 Dump Pack upgrade? I'm already getting used to the power and now want moar.

I saw Rob was working on the final design and packaging when i was at his shop last weekend.

I have the first plug and play kit on my car now....he wants to make sure that everything is good with the connectors and whatnot that he uses and then i believe he will be making it available.

I recommend everyone to add the pack, its a no brainer really

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Jac

I'm not sure the problem is getting air into the engine bay, but getting the hot air out.

I would tend to agree with this. I have hit thermal ONCE since i got the thing installed. It was last summer when i was driving against the BMW 135i on a closed road. We must have done 10 pulls from 30km/hr to 200km/hr.....the great thing is the thermal didnt hit until after we parked for a break.... i mistakenly left the hood closed and as the radiator fans pumped hot air into the engine bay the controller hit the thermal....it took about 5 minutes of driving before it recovered to full charge.

Basically what i am getting at is if push the system alot and then get stuck in stop and go traffic you will be more likely to hit thermal.

There also is the option to add a fan to the controller although if you are in stop and go traffic i don't see this helping.

[Jac]

Originally Posted by fenton

There also is the option to add a fan to the controller although if you are in stop and go traffic i don't see this helping.

I have the fan and still tripped it twice on my first drive.

Need a way to somehow extract the hot air, in a non-ricer way (no hood scoops/extractors). Would love to have functional side vents, assuming they would create enough pressure to pull the hot air out.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by fenton

I would tend to agree with this. I have hit thermal ONCE since i got the thing installed. It was last summer when i was driving against the BMW 135i on a closed road. We must have done 10 pulls from 30km/hr to 200km/hr.....the great thing is the thermal didnt hit until after we parked for a break.... i mistakenly left the hood closed and as the radiator fans pumped hot air into the engine bay the controller hit the thermal....it took about 5 minutes of driving before it recovered to full charge.

Basically what i am getting at is if push the system a lot and then get stuck in stop and go traffic you will be more likely to hit thermal.

There also is the option to add a fan to the controller although if you are in stop and go traffic i don't see this helping.

I think by having the moving air (especially cold air from the front) will help significantly. The area that the controller sits there is very little air movement. If you have headers that are not wrapped or coated I can see this tripping the thermal sensor sooner as well.

But moving air would be key here in my humble opinion. But in traffic this would suck.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

But moving air would be key here in my humble opinion. But in traffic this would suck.

Given that you probably aren't going WOT in traffic, it probably won't engage that often

[fenton]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

Given that you probably aren't going WOT in traffic, it probably won't engage that often

psssssh.... as soon as i get 10 feet free in front of me it is launch control and WOT until i narrow the gap.........

No but seriously...Jac is yours tripping when you are WOT and cruising or when you get stuck in traffic?

What altitude are you at and what's the ambient temp currently?

You shouldn't be hitting the thermal very easy

[DAEMANO]

Gonna strap a sealed H20 cooler on my Phantom controller, duct that ish, and overclock my ESC for 20 more horsepowerz. Watch. :P

[Urmyson]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Gonna strap a sealed H20 cooler on my Phantom controller, duct that ish, and overclock my ESC for 20 more horsepowerz. Watch. :P

lol