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Old 04-09-2014, 02:46 PM   #15
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2014 has kneepads and a "improved" touch screen radio. Cricket noises are complimentary of any model year.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:14 PM   #16
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Take a trip? The dealer I bought mine from has a new silver 2013 BRZ discounted to $23k.

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Old 04-09-2014, 03:37 PM   #17
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If you waited this long, wait for the next supra

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If I could do it again I would get a used one for cheaper, caring for a brand new car can be a pain at times.
Yup. I feel the same way
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The latest B01 factory flash TSB is an important reason to buy new. The 2012 build factory tune was crapola. I'm not convinced that 10k mi on the early tune was good for the engine long term. Buy new or wait till the 14's drop to $15k or so.
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Just don't expect the Supra's price to be anywhere near the FR-S.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:11 PM   #22
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<applicable to all sporty cars> If you buy one used get a top to bottom inspection as what's available in the used lots have probably been driven like they were stolen by car nuts that got tired of it prematurely.
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The latest B01 factory flash TSB is an important reason to buy new. The 2012 build factory tune was crapola. I'm not convinced that 10k mi on the early tune was good for the engine long term. Buy new or wait till the 14's drop to $15k or so.
when is it expected that a 2014 FRS will be down to 15k?

Honest question.
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when is it expected that a 2014 FRS will be down to 15k?

Honest question.
It's not expected. No one can know how the resell of a brand new car will work. In my opinion, for it to drop to 15k...I would say another 2-3 years. It's 2014, dealers are still offering 19k trade in value on the 2013s.
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I Just Switched From A Asphalt 13 To A Whiteout 14 (NEEDED That Color lol).
The Spoiler Resembles That Of A BRZ . . . Could've Just Been The Dealer.
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I Just Switched From A Asphalt 13 To A Whiteout 14 (NEEDED That Color lol).
The Spoiler Resembles That Of A BRZ . . . Could've Just Been The Dealer.
As in you traded in your asphalt and bought the whiteout? Do you mind me askin what value your dealer put the 13 at if so?(on the trade in...)
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when is it expected that a 2014 FRS will be down to 15k?

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Clean cars are still going in the $20-$22k range with lots of miles on them, 2 years old and roughly $3k depreciation I'd gamble at least another 4 years to see prices under $16k for a decent car at this rate.

Of course this is barring any changes to our perception of reliability or major revisions to the model. If the 2016 comes out with ridiculous improvements that don't break the bank demand for the first generation will drop, if production ceases I wouldn't be surprised to see prices jump.

Despite poor sales there are S2000's still asking prices >75% of what they cost new.
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Clean cars are still going in the $20-$22k range with lots of miles on them, 2 years old and roughly $3k depreciation I'd gamble at least another 4 years to see prices under $16k for a decent car at this rate.

Of course this is barring any changes to our perception of reliability or major revisions to the model. If the 2016 comes out with ridiculous improvements that don't break the bank demand for the first generation will drop, if production ceases I wouldn't be surprised to see prices jump.

Despite poor sales there are S2000's still asking prices >75% of what they cost new.


I don't think we can compare this car to an S2k as far as depreciation, convertibles typically spend a lot of time in the garage. Also the S2k did have a big dip in price on the used market at one point.
I'm still kicking myself for not buying my coworkers perfect S2k for $15k a few years back , he had a hard time selling it.


For sale by owner we should see some good prices in just a couple years. Of course no-one knows but the used cars dealers at 22k are probably marked up quite a bit over true trade-in (they play games and you never really know what you're getting on trade in.).


I remember when it was common to see 2005 Lotus's for $20-$22k by owner on autotrader.


There is usually a dip in used car prices typically first or second year cars a few years after they have been new but are still in production.


Only 2 ways to know what a used car is worth one is to go to /read dealer auctions or try to sell one yourself.


The used car market has gotten crazy in the difference between lot prices and owner sales. I would be surprised to get more than $18k on my 2013 FRS trying to sell it myself (12k miles.)


The other thing to look for is high miles, typically these are cars driven on long interstate commutes which is practically zero wear and tear.


Last when the 3 year bumper to bumper warranty is up prices take a big dip. So summer 2012+3 years. I'm going to gestimate $15k for sale by owner next year.
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