4 Point harness mounting locations for stock seat

[CoupedUpSubie]

Originally Posted by DR 86

I have a question for you: what kind of harness do you have, and what is 1.8L of furry?

My harness is a Megan Racing 4 point. Came with Simpson straps with the end to bolt onto the car. This harness was in a fully caged log booked car. Here is the link to it on their website: http://www.meganracing.com/product_d...d=620&catid=98
It will be for rallyx only.

The 1.8L of furry is a joke. Anyone who knows the ej18 engine put into mid 90s subarus should get it.

[2point0]

Originally Posted by CoupedUpSubie

The 1.8L of furry is a joke. Anyone who knows the ej18 engine put into mid 90s subarus should get it.

I think he's confused about your spelling of the word "fury".

"Furry" is...just...something else.

[2point0]

Originally Posted by CoupedUpSubie

My harness is a Megan Racing 4 point. Came with Simpson straps with the end to bolt onto the car. This harness was in a fully caged log booked car. Here is the link to it on their website: http://www.meganracing.com/product_d...d=620&catid=98
It will be for rallyx only.

Hang on a sec, Megan Racing sells harnesses? I mean, a cheap exhaust is one thing but I don't think I would trust my life with any of their products.

[CoupedUpSubie]

Originally Posted by 2point0

Hang on a sec, Megan Racing sells harnesses? I mean, a cheap exhaust is one thing but I don't think I would trust my life with any of their products.

It is labeled Megan Racing. From looking it over I don't see where anything was cheaply done. Nothing is fraying or lacking proper stitching. I work with harnesses for doing work aloft on ships so I know what proper harness design is. Only part that could be better is the buckle but it is probably stronger then the factory one. Also like I said, just for rallyx in my impreza. It won't see speeds over 35(on the speedo as wheels spin a lot at times). I like the feel of being held in a seat as compared to on it, which is part of the reason I bought a BRZ and not a WRX or STi. Those seats are wider.

[Thorpedo]

Props to the OP for taking the criticism so well. Agreed with all the other folks that it looked a tad sketchy.

[kuhlka]

Originally Posted by ScorpionOzzy

a shoulder harness should always be mounted directly behind you, never to the floor. When you crash, those harnesses are just going to compress your back, rather than just hold your body in the seat.

A simple harness bar would do the job just fine

Hmmm... Just got a new Miller Multimatic 200 for the garage. I could probably make one of those and build more after setting up a jig this spring. Just need a tubing bender.

[JS86JS]

This isn't such a bad thing; I needed this as i want to do what some of the guys in the 86/brz car club here in aus have done. All it does is (once tightened up) holds you in the seat for every corner so it makes driving easier instead of sliding in the seat. BUT wear your stock seat belt with it in case of a crash because bolting it like this is not a good idea if you crash

[mx555]

Don't use harness like this. Ever.


FIA guide for harness set up

[Thorpedo]

Originally Posted by JS86JS

This isn't such a bad thing; I needed this as i want to do what some of the guys in the 86/brz car club here in aus have done. All it does is (once tightened up) holds you in the seat for every corner so it makes driving easier instead of sliding in the seat. BUT wear your stock seat belt with it in case of a crash because bolting it like this is not a good idea if you crash

Noooo no no no no. Did you not read the thread? This is the WORST setup possible and waaaaaay more dangerous than the stock seatbelt. If you wear your stock belt it isn't going to help you at all with this thing on. This setup has the potential to SERIOUSLY injure you. DO NOT bolt it up this way and use it.

As stated earlier, for show is one thing, but the belts should not be used like this.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by JS86JS

This isn't such a bad thing; I needed this as i want to do what some of the guys in the 86/brz car club here in aus have done. All it does is (once tightened up) holds you in the seat for every corner so it makes driving easier instead of sliding in the seat. BUT wear your stock seat belt with it in case of a crash because bolting it like this is not a good idea if you crash

So if other people drove their cars off a cliff, would you do it too?

Tell me exactly how wearing both a stock seat belt AND a 4 point harness is a good thing?

-alex

[mx555]

http://www.cg-lock.com/

[Sypher]

I dont know anything about harness safety but has anyone looked at mounting the top belts of a harness to the child seat top mount above the back seats?

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by Sypher

I dont know anything about harness safety but has anyone looked at mounting the top belts of a harness to the child seat top mount above the back seats?

I'd be curious to know about this, too. Or are those too high up?

I'd also like to know the viability of mounting a schroth auto control to the same mounting point as the rear shoulder belts. If I were to have a harness in a street-driven car, the auto control 3 pt harness is what I'd want, to keep use of the backseats.

[smbstyle]

Originally Posted by F1point4

That setup is unsafe. I talked to reps at Schroth and Takeda and both of them said the car's geometry is not fit to mount shoulder belts to the rear seatbelt points so they will not be making quick fit style harnesses for our cars. They strongly urge wrapping harnesses around rollcages are properly made harness bars.

The lap belt should pointed outward, and the outside lapbelt should really be mounted to where the factory seatbelt is located.

I second everyone who says its really important to pay attention to manufacturers recommendations regarding harness angles, etc.

This. When I was shopping my for harness setup, the guys at HMS Motorsport, who are a Schroth importer, confirmed the shoulder belt geometry is too steep to be mounted to the rear seat area on our cars, and I needed a proper harness bar.

I ended up going with the Schroth Profi II ASM 4 point with the Agency Power harness bar.