CSG and RCE tag-team suspension Q&A thread! Ask us anything!

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Calum

7th is saying they're not required.

Camber bolts are the go to for adjusting the front camber. Lower control arms are the go to for adjusting the rear camber. Adjustable front lower control arms aren't for the person that has to ask these questions. There is a lot going on when you adjust the front control arm on a Mac strut suspension. And before you get defensive I'm not saying I'm about to buy a set of front Lower Control Arm's either. WAY over my head.

If you have the desire to learn there plenty of links throughout this thread that can help you start down that path, but for now, I'd recommend group-n top hats for the street, and camber bolts for adjustment. The group-n mounts wont make any noise but are stiffer than stock. If you want to go stiffer than group-n's, pick up a set of adjustable top hats. They will likely make some more noise, but that's the trade off for further adjustment and less movement.

Thank you sir, you clarified it and helped me save 5-6 bills.

Now I can put those bills towards sway bars or strut tower braces. What's the difference between those two? Is one better than the other?

Edit: nvm figured it out!

[Sirsimon]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

If and when I autocross, being competitive will be the last thing on my mind. I'll be trying to keep the car pointed in the right direction and identify the one orange cone in the sea of orange cones that is telling me where to go. Plus, I'm also planning springs and header, so I'd already be out of the stock class.

Thanks for the opinion on the bushings. They're not terribly expensive, so I think I'm going to go for it. FT86 speed factory has energy suspension sets for the entire front and rear suspensions for not too much.

I've had a car where I replaced every bushing avail with either poly or Gruppe-N stuff. It does make a nice and very noticeable improvement. I found no appreciable difference in NVH. But- and this is one big but (yes, pun intended, even without the extra 't'), that "entire kit" will cost an arm and a leg to have someone install and then get the car aligned. This is much better off if you can either do it all yourself, or have them installed when you upgrade other suspension parts.

Just my personal 2 cents (or less).

DJ

[Calum]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Thank you sir, you clarified it and helped me save 5-6 bills.

Now I can put those bills towards sway bars or strut tower braces. What's the difference between those two? Is one better than the other?

Edit: nvm figured it out!

A rear strut tower brace on this car is a complete waste of money. On the front they're still open for debate. On a previous platform I played with it was realized after a number of years that having a strut tower bar prevented cracking where the tunnel met the fire wall. I have no idea if that will be an issue on these, but my personal opinion is that is the most compelling reason to put one on this car.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Calum

A rear strut tower brace on this car is a complete waste of money. On the front they're still open for debate. On a previous platform I played with it was realized after a number of years that having a strut tower bar prevented cracking where the tunnel met the fire wall. I have no idea if that will be an issue on these, but my personal opinion is that is the most compelling reason to put one on this car.

Another thing to keep off my ever expanding and expensive mod list lol

[Books]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Z1 Star Specs or Z2 Star Specs? I'm really curious about the Z2 Star Specs...

Sorry, just Z1s. I got a an insane deal from a friend so I can't complain (And a chance to test drive a tire for cheap). They have about 5mm tread left. I might be getting Z2s next year I guess.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by normancw

Without pads installed - you can see there are no dust boots, which can melt when tracking (not good for winter though).

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Fixed.
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[finch1750]

Originally Posted by FRSKEV

Question regarding RCE yellows and rear camber adjustment.

Why would I want the whiteline adjustable upper control arm bushings over the whiteline lower control arm adjustable bushing? It's 2 less bushings to install, easier to adjust and has more range.

This is from what I understand, I might be wrong.

Fyi the lca bushing shows as deleted on Whitelines website. I had som ordered and they were backordered at the time. Founs this out when checkong the other day and cancled the order, for now. Still hope rhey come out eventually.

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[epshtielsl]

Originally Posted by leicaboss

Okay guys, back again...

I have a suspension install coming up soon and I want to get my camber settings dialed in.





Here's what going on my car:

• Swift Sport BRZ spec springs (3.8/kg Front + 4.5/kg Rear)
• SPC Lower Control Arm (w/ Toe Adjustment)
• SPC Front Camber Bolts
• Resulting drop will be about 1"

Here's what I'm looking to get out of the car:

• 80% daily driving, 20% spirited twisties, HPDE, AutoX
• Running stock wheels/tires for the time being
• Maintain "BRZish" handling that is forgiving for a beginner; not too tail happy!

I'd appreciate any feedback for the suggested all-around camber setting it seems I'm looking for Thanks in advance.

Are there any thoughts on this setup? I read through the thread and didn't see a reply.

This is essentially, what I want too. 80% daily driving, 20% spirited, stock rims/tires for now. Mainly want a drop without destroying the shocks while maintaining the car's characteristics. Are there any other springs that will fall under this category?

[Krispeee]

Originally Posted by epshtielsl

Are there any thoughts on this setup? I read through the thread and didn't see a reply.

This is essentially, what I want too. 80% daily driving, 20% spirited, stock rims/tires for now. Mainly want a drop without destroying the shocks while maintaining the car's characteristics. Are there any other springs that will fall under this category?

RCE Yellows would be a good option to look into as well. Yellows are a little stiffer in the front than the Swift BRZ springs.

[jarednoel]

Hey guys! I hope you can give me some insight without too much flame, so here it goes...

I'm currently running Eibach Pro Kits on my stock dampers and they're great for a DD. I'm looking into getting coilovers sometime soon after I get my FN01R's rebuilt and I needed your guys' input. I've ran the Godspeed Mono-RS for my 240 before and I loved it. But there's also ST Coilovers for roughly the same price focused more on comfort and daily driving that is making me lean towards it.

Bottom Line: Would it be a better investment to get the Godspeed Mono RS or the ST?

[Wepeel]

Originally Posted by epshtielsl

Are there any thoughts on this setup? I read through the thread and didn't see a reply.

This is essentially, what I want too. 80% daily driving, 20% spirited, stock rims/tires for now. Mainly want a drop without destroying the shocks while maintaining the car's characteristics. Are there any other springs that will fall under this category?

I would trade the SPC rear arms and front camber bolts for HVT Camber plates. At that drop you wouldn't get excessive rear camber. You could run the HVT plates at neutral or minimal -ve camber for street (e.g. -1.5 or so), and then dial in -2.5 to -3 for autocross/track for grip and tire wear purposes. The toe on this car doesn't seem to change much with camber plate movement so that shouldn't be an issue (if you ran -1.5 for street you would have to push the camber plates inboard about another centimeter to hit -2.5). And you'd get an additional 0.5-.75 deg of caster.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by jarednoel

Hey guys! I hope you can give me some insight without too much flame

Bottom Line: Would it be a better investment to get the Godspeed Mono RS or the ST?

If anyone flames you, they are having a bad day, no reason to flame anyone

I haven't heard anything on these boards about the Godspeed Mono RS, on the contrary, I have heard that for the price point, it is very hard to beat the ST coilovers. They are indeed KW V1 without the Stainless Steel coating.

If your objective is to stay under $1,000 then you may want to look at some Bilstein PSS B14's, which are progressive and very comfortable. Another option is to try a Koni/RCE yellow combo. To my knowledge that combo comes in under 1k as well albeit a little more performance oriented.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by jarednoel

Hey guys! I hope you can give me some insight without too much flame, so here it goes...

I'm currently running Eibach Pro Kits on my stock dampers and they're great for a DD. I'm looking into getting coilovers sometime soon after I get my FN01R's rebuilt and I needed your guys' input. I've ran the Godspeed Mono-RS for my 240 before and I loved it. But there's also ST Coilovers for roughly the same price focused more on comfort and daily driving that is making me lean towards it.

Bottom Line: Would it be a better investment to get the Godspeed Mono RS or the ST?

Any track time or auto-x? Are you looking for just a little more improvement in handling?

I did not enjoy the Godspeeds I rode on for STI for what it's worth, especially not comfort.

- Andy

[jarednoel]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

If anyone flames you, they are having a bad day, no reason to flame anyone

I haven't heard anything on these boards about the Godspeed Mono RS, on the contrary, I have heard that for the price point, it is very hard to beat the ST coilovers. They are indeed KW V1 without the Stainless Steel coating.

If your objective is to stay under $1,000 then you may want to look at some Bilstein PSS B14's, which are progressive and very comfortable. Another option is to try a Koni/RCE yellow combo. To my knowledge that combo comes in under 1k as well albeit a little more performance oriented.

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Any track time or auto-x? Are you looking for just a little more improvement in handling?

I did not enjoy the Godspeeds I rode on for STI for what it's worth, especially not comfort.

- Andy

Thank you for such a quick response! I'm sorry that I forgot to add in that I will not be seeing any track time soon, but will be in the future. As of now, I'm currently running canyons around my area and that's where I need the reliability of a good coilover. I've heard that the new Speed by Design coilover was built similar to the ST coils, but is not as durable as the Godspeed Mono RS coilover. Just wanted your guys' input!

Thanks again in advance!