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Old 03-28-2014, 10:33 PM   #477
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Excuse the ignorance, but would using the BPBs (aka lengthening the IM runners) = a decrease in real world gas mileage?

Good question. I will be driving to WillowSprings raceway tomorrow for a weekend race which is a 3 hour drive each way. I will check for ya
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:03 AM   #478
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That typically happens if your are throwing air across the maf sensor differently than stock skewing the AFR and giving a lean mixture. This is why a number of people asked for AFR plots. This is why intakes "lose" power over time because eventually the ECU retunes tot he correct AFR. I am wondering how much power will stay after adjusting the cam profiles, and not so much "learning". I'll have dynos tomorrow, dyno is at 10:30AM.
It's tomorrow

Edit, Derp, stupid time zone offset... carry on.
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:29 AM   #479
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Edit, Derp, stupid time zone offset... carry on.
Lol i had multiple people pm / text me asking what I put down on the dyno for te same reason. Your not alone lol!
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Is there anyway to stop your ecu from learning without causing engine damage?


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Old 03-29-2014, 01:09 AM   #481
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That typically happens if your are throwing air across the maf sensor differently than stock skewing the AFR and giving a lean mixture. This is why a number of people asked for AFR plots. This is why intakes "lose" power over time because eventually the ECU retunes tot he correct AFR. I am wondering how much power will stay after adjusting the cam profiles, and not so much "learning". I'll have dynos tomorrow, dyno is at 10:30AM.
I'm expecting dynos @ exactly 10:31! You have 19 minutes. I am starting the timer.
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That typically happens if your are throwing air across the maf sensor differently than stock skewing the AFR and giving a lean mixture. This is why a number of people asked for AFR plots. This is why intakes "lose" power over time because eventually the ECU retunes tot he correct AFR. I am wondering how much power will stay after adjusting the cam profiles, and not so much "learning". I'll have dynos tomorrow, dyno is at 10:30AM.
Nelsmar has let us down. It's frikken 10:53AM and no dynos in Whoville.

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He said dyno at 10:30 not results at 10:30...
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Lol it's 10:43... I am at the dyno ATM. I accidentally set the house alarm off and kinda delayed my morning LOL. I just got here... I realized I also left the oem air filter behind I'll be installing the blocks in about 45. We are just about to do some baseline numbers!
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lol...

Going to take a bit, shop is pretty busy today so I will spend about half the time tuning, half the time waiting and browsing the web for my friend to get back to the dyno. (Which I am doing right now *twiddles thumbs*)
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Just finished stock vs stock tuned. Installing on this hot ass engine...

130whp baseline. 145whp tuned. <3 me a heartbreaker dyno :P
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