Report: Subaru says BRZ pricing about $25000, and mentions Turbo BRZ coming

[Bang Uchiha]

Looks like Toyota "shot themselves in the foot" by not offering the GT-86 state side and pricing the Scion if it were a Toyota.

Scion being looked at and marketed as a lower brand needing CPR, Toyota wanted to propel Scion sales too much. But the price is way too close to the BRZ, that most will opt of the BRZ because of options- HID, limited trim etc.

I would've bought the 86 over the BRZ but not the FRS over the BRZ. I'm probably not alone. ( 86>BRZ>FRS )

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

And the telescopic wheel, which after sitting in the car is definately a feature I'd want.

They both have the telescoping steering wheel. The only difference is HIDS and Nav. The BRZ has the uglier front bumper and uglier side vent fender.

But hey if it's the same price. BRZ baby! There are still preorders available for the BRZ premium. Now if the limited is only $1500 more than the premium (your only talking DualZone AC with push start, heated leather alcantara seats, a rear wing)...hmmm

[Tainen]

Originally Posted by slizoth

Right which really means Subaru will want $25,999. I'm pretty torn, 25k is what I expected the limited to be, I really wanted the cost to be closer to 22k for the base model, which is exactly why Im /considering/ the veloster but there is still a lot to look into.

Just curious, why would you think the limited would be 25k? Was there some source, or were you just being extremely optimistic? Pretty much every source put the BRZ at 25k, which meant the limited would be at LEAST 26.5k, most likely 27k.

I'm asking because, in the FR-S thread, everyone is crapping their pants about the price and saying they expected 22k, when... no one ever said 22k. All the rumors were always 23-24k.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Speedjunkie

I believe that scion with have an more open stock of fr-s on the lot than subie will have the br-z. Seems like if there going to be a turbo version(most likely sti) it will be a late 2013 or early 2014 model, pretty much if ur gonna own a br-z when it first comes out keep it stock or close to sell it privately and go order the sti version. Which will probbly have around 260 hp and 200, conservative of course.

Subaru= Sti Turbo
Scion= Trd Supercharger

That's a good idea...Get a BRZ or FR-S now (this summer) keep it stock, and then get the sti BRZ in 2014. That will probably be a 2015 model.

[Giccin]

I just want your opinion to those who read.

Would you say... 23k would've been the ideal "affordable" amount for the FRS?

I just want a yes or no.

[Tainen]

Originally Posted by Giccin

I just want your opinion to those who read.

Would you say... 23k would've been the ideal "affordable" amount for the FRS?

I just want a yes or no.

you should put it in the FR-S forum. I think the question is already posed, even.

[xelmiradorx]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Aside from the HIDs...what does the premium BRZ offer over the FRS???

I thought the real differences are in the Limited.....
to me the BRZ premium and the FRS are nearly identical in all ways.

HIDS and NAV ...

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Speedjunkie

I believe that scion with have an more open stock of fr-s on the lot than subie will have the br-z. Seems like if there going to be a turbo version(most likely sti) it will be a late 2013 or early 2014 model, pretty much if ur gonna own a br-z when it first comes out keep it stock or close to sell it privately and go order the sti version. Which will probbly have around 260 hp and 200, conservative of course.

Subaru= Sti Turbo
Scion= Trd Supercharger

I'm wondering if the TRD S/C is normally a bolt-on though. No accompanying suspension/brake mods, unlike STI's.

Still can't decide.

[Sasquachulator]

[QUOTE=blu_;162921]

Originally Posted by A Gomez

As I understand it, the idea of the car was discussed and then scrapped. Then Subaru came to Toyota with their first Legacy based prototype they built and Toyota jumped on board. The project makes a lot of sense for Subaru and I think they were very excited to do it. The DI technology alone was a deal maker for them business wise. Not to mention that this is basically a stepping stone to the next wrx/sti platform.

Story is backwards, i think it was Toyota that had to convince Subaru brass of the viability of the project.

I mean th FT86 CAME from Toyota in after all......
Im pretty sure Subaru had nothing to do with it until after the first FT86 concept.

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by Tainen

you should put it in the FR-S forum. I think the question is already posed, even.

I'm asking here because because the price of the FRS is apparently having a go at everyone who is speculating about BRZ prices.


So now back to my question.

Is it a yes or no Mr. Tainen?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Story is backwards, i think it was Toyota that had to convince Subaru brass of the viability of the project.

I mean th FT86 CAME from Toyota in after all......
Im pretty sure Subaru had nothing to do with it until after the first FT86 concept.

Toyota went to Subaru.
Subaru said no.
Project died 100%.
2? Years later Subaru went back to Toyota with "let's do this".

[YaX]

Well, I had a friend that pre-ordered a Saturn Sky. As soon as the GXP came out, he traded it in for it. I think the Saturn Sky is stupid car and I was able to drive it, but the point is, I'm not going to make that mistake.

I'm waiting to make damn sure they don't come out with an STi before buying my BRZ. I don't care how long the line is to get one. I'm getting the car I want.

[Tainen]

Originally Posted by Giccin

I'm asking here because because the price of the FRS is apparently having a go at everyone who is speculating about BRZ prices.


So now back to my question.

Is it a yes or no Mr. Tainen?

Yes.


It feels like a baited question though. Of course people are always going to want something a little cheaper... ? That doesn't mean it's viable at the lower cost.

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by Giccin

I just want your opinion to those who read.

Would you say... 23k would've been the ideal "affordable" amount for the FRS?

I just want a yes or no.

No...

23k was a fantasy, wishful thinking, a dream, a hope, a bad joke, alternate reality, laughable, naive....infinity.

25K is realistic in today's market and affordable for their target market, which is maybe not what we think it is anymore...why...because that 28-38 year old has more disposable income...and maybe that's the market they want.