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Old 03-26-2014, 08:50 PM   #407
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You've lost me.........please explain......
Apparently corner exit is not a thing...
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Apparently corner exit is not a thing...
Im mad bc crawford didnt make this do exactly what I wanted it to.
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Im mad bc crawford didnt make this do exactly what I wanted it to.
We are mad as well!! But the compromise worked out ok.
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We are mad as well!! But the compromise worked out ok.
Lol, I was being a wise a$$
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I honestly don't understand what the confusion here is all about. (Or all the little boys crying to get some attention) A peak that is a little bit later will make it so that I don't have to short shift to get the most out of it, and keeps the power going at the top of second gear where I am commonly at during autocross. I don't mean to sound whiney, it just isn't optimal for my setup.

Am I wrong in saying that if the peak happened later so the drop off was moreso after the limiter kicks in it would be better for high RPM track performance? (awkward sentence, I know) This just seems logical to me, as for many tracks the dips down to 4500 aren't very frequent (at least with our course designers). I'm up for intelligent conversation here folks, but lots of you aren't adding anything. Stop filling the thread with useless posts.

Maybe @Crawford Performance can chime in and correct me if i'm wrong? (instead of feeding the trolls)
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:31 PM   #414
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I honestly don't understand what the confusion here is all about.
There isn't any confusion.
You believe more power at 7-7400 is better for you and everyone else believes more usable power everywhere else is better.

It obviously depends on what you're doing with your car... But the usable power everywhere else seems to win in most aspects.
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I honestly don't understand what the confusion here is all about. (Or all the little boys crying to get some attention) A peak that is a little bit later will make it so that I don't have to short shift to get the most out of it, and keeps the power going at the top of second gear where I am commonly at during autocross. I don't mean to sound whiney, it just isn't optimal for my setup.

Am I wrong in saying that if the peak happened later so the drop off was moreso after the limiter kicks in it would be better for high RPM track performance? (awkward sentence, I know) This just seems logical to me, as for many tracks the dips down to 4500 aren't very frequent (at least with our course designers). I'm up for intelligent conversation here folks, but lots of you aren't adding anything. Stop filling the thread with useless posts.



Maybe @Crawford Performance can chime in and correct me if i'm wrong? (instead of feeding the trolls)

The type of power band you are looking for is good for drag racing only. Think of the Audi's that have dominated Le Mans for many years now, Diesel powered with massive torque. It's acceleration that wins road races and autocross is the same. That said, you comments about gear ratios are spot on and avoiding a shift could gain you more than the extra power / torque. If you get a chance to drive a car with our BPB on it then you will see how much quicker the car actually is.
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In order to shift the peak to the right they would need to use a shorter spacer. By doing this they would simply move everything back toward the stock curve. The only way to keep the peak in the same location is to NOT install spacers at all. The compromise in this case is to enjoy gains by shifting the peak and they chose the shift that gave gains without costing much if anything up top. The reason people are giving you a hard time is because you do not understand how it works and are asking for the impossible (without a tune at least)

Give it a week for tuned results to show up and perhaps you will be happier.
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:56 PM   #417
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I honestly don't understand what the confusion here is all about. (Or all the little boys crying to get some attention) A peak that is a little bit later will make it so that I don't have to short shift to get the most out of it, and keeps the power going at the top of second gear where I am commonly at during autocross. I don't mean to sound whiney, it just isn't optimal for my setup.

Am I wrong in saying that if the peak happened later so the drop off was moreso after the limiter kicks in it would be better for high RPM track performance? (awkward sentence, I know) This just seems logical to me, as for many tracks the dips down to 4500 aren't very frequent (at least with our course designers). I'm up for intelligent conversation here folks, but lots of you aren't adding anything. Stop filling the thread with useless posts.

Maybe @Crawford Performance can chime in and correct me if i'm wrong? (instead of feeding the trolls)
The problem is you do not understand the concept.

Study this some more:



Assume stock is "b '88 model". If you want higher rpm power you will have to settle for "a" which prolongs the power curve later but also lowers the peak power. What crawford has done is "c", "d" or "e" which shifts the power curve towards the lower rpms but also increases the peak power.

What you are asking for is "e" but shifted later in the rpm band. These power blocks cannot do that for you.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:02 PM   #418
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For my autoX courses this would be excellent.... Assuming it stacks of top of headers and intakes.

I end up low in 2nd gear constantly because the courses are short. Having power earlier would help when shifting into first takes too long.

When tuned results with other parts come out I'll decide if it'll help my setup.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:13 PM   #419
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Its good to see Crawford back on the forum.

Also, seeing shiv get his paws on these runners.
I'm sure he'll make the most out of them.
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So we're only seeing a 9hp gain and not really the falsely advertised 20hp gain?? ....PASS ....F'ing liars. Sell your BS somewhere else.
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