which springs to buy??

[TwoFourFive]

looking for a clean look but not looking to have to worry about rubbing or anything.. which springs you guys think will look and work the best.

I am on 17x8.25 XXR 527s +35

[Wes]

H&R's sports or super sports depending on how low you want to go. I have the sports and they feel super comfortable, like stock but better feel. I've ridden on eibachs pro kit and sportlines, they feel alright, but can get pretty bouncy. I havent really experienced other springs, but I'd recommend H&R's unless you like bouncy ride

[ericmpena]

I wasn't happy with Sportlines. I love the looks of the Pro-Kit, but I've never driven on them. Sportlines were way too harsh for me.

[TwoFourFive]

Originally Posted by ericmpena

I wasn't happy with Sportlines. I love the looks of the Pro-Kit, but I've never driven on them. Sportlines were way too harsh for me.

That's what I have been hearing. I don't think 1" will be enough drop for me though. I have not seen pro kits on 17s only on 18s. Does anyone have pictures of them on 17s

[ericmpena]

If you're looking for more drop than 1" then you're going to need rear LCA's as well. Also, I'm pretty sure you're going to sacrifice a good amount of ride quality in the process.
While that may not seem important right now, trust me, once you start bouncing around for the slightest bumps on the road you're really not going to enjoy driving anymore.
You'll be putting a good amount of strain on your stock struts with your car lowered more than 1". You should just upgrade the struts along with the lowering springs at the same time, or just get coilovers.
I always heard that from everyone and it was so annoying. "Just get coilovers." No one really wants to spend $1,200+ on coilovers when you're just trying to get rid of wheel gap...but in the long run it's the better decision that will save you money later on. What happens if you decide you don't like the drop or ride quality of your springs? You're going to lose a good amount of money trying to figure out what works best for you. Coilovers are adjustable....so it's not going to cost you anything else to adjust the damping or ride height.

In my case I spent $230 on Sportlines, $200ish on rear LCAs, $450 for springs installation/rear LCA installation/alignment, and then $200 for wheel spacers so that the stock wheels weren't so tucked in. All together it turned out to be a $1000 project. Let's just say after 5 months I didn't like the look of the Sportline drop, nor the ride quality. I purchased a Pro-Kit for $230 and was about to get them installed for $300 including alignment. That would've put me out $530...totaling the cost to $1530 to still get a setup that I'm satisfied with. Lol
You can see why it would've been better to just get coilovers from the beginning.
Anyways, that's my advice. If you want to save a good amount of money then go with something that's about a 1" drop. With a 1" drop you won't need rear LCA's. That'll save you $200 at least for those, plus save you the cost of having to get those installed if you're paying someone to do that for you.
With a Pro-Kit you should just need the springs, front camber bolts ($20), and then install. You should have a good ride quality with a mild drop. Anything more than that and you're better of with coilovers IMO.

[TwoFourFive]

Originally Posted by ericmpena

If you're looking for more drop than 1" then you're going to need rear LCA's as well. Also, I'm pretty sure you're going to sacrifice a good amount of ride quality in the process.
While that may not seem important right now, trust me, once you start bouncing around for the slightest bumps on the road you're really not going to enjoy driving anymore.
You'll be putting a good amount of strain on your stock struts with your car lowered more than 1". You should just upgrade the struts along with the lowering springs at the same time, or just get coilovers.
I always heard that from everyone and it was so annoying. "Just get coilovers." No one really wants to spend $1,200+ on coilovers when you're just trying to get rid of wheel gap...but in the long run it's the better decision that will save you money later on. What happens if you decide you don't like the drop or ride quality of your springs? You're going to lose a good amount of money trying to figure out what works best for you. Coilovers are adjustable....so it's not going to cost you anything else to adjust the damping or ride height.

In my case I spent $230 on Sportlines, $200ish on rear LCAs, $450 for springs installation/rear LCA installation/alignment, and then $200 for wheel spacers so that the stock wheels weren't so tucked in. All together it turned out to be a $1000 project. Let's just say after 5 months I didn't like the look of the Sportline drop, nor the ride quality. I purchased a Pro-Kit for $230 and was about to get them installed for $300 including alignment. That would've put me out $530...totaling the cost to $1530 to still get a setup that I'm satisfied with. Lol
You can see why it would've been better to just get coilovers from the beginning.
Anyways, that's my advice. If you want to save a good amount of money then go with something that's about a 1" drop. With a 1" drop you won't need rear LCA's. That'll save you $200 at least for those, plus save you the cost of having to get those installed if you're paying someone to do that for you.
With a Pro-Kit you should just need the springs, front camber bolts ($20), and then install. You should have a good ride quality with a mild drop. Anything more than that and you're better of with coilovers IMO.

Well said.. That's probably what I am going to to do. Thanks so much

[ericmpena]

Originally Posted by TwoFourFive

That's what I have been hearing. I don't think 1" will be enough drop for me though. I have not seen pro kits on 17s only on 18s. Does anyone have pictures of them on 17s

Sorry for the previous long response. Here's a link to a Pro-Kit on stock 17's.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26769

[TwoFourFive]

Originally Posted by ericmpena

Sorry for the previous long response. Here's a link to a Pro-Kit on stock 17's.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26769

So all i will need is the springs correct. Will I also need to purchase spacers or anything?

[ericmpena]

Originally Posted by TwoFourFive

So all i will need is the springs correct. Will I also need to purchase spacers or anything?

SPC Front Camber Bolts $25: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/271353238922?lpid=82

Wheel Spacers (Optional): http://www.b2autodesigns.com/index.p...1129_1216_1341

You can probably tell right now that the wheels sit pretty far inside of the wheel fenders. When you lower your car it's going to be much more obvious. A lot of people want the wheels to be flush with the fender and not be tucked in. If you want that look then you'll want to get 20mm spacers for the front, and 25mm spacers for the rear (For stock wheels). You can find them for sell used on the Member's Classifieds...or just buy them from B2 Auto. They're the cheapest I've found. Before I stumbled upon B2 Auto I was almost about to purchase spacers from Eibach which were $200 for 2 as opposed to $200 for the set of 4!

If you have aftermarket wheels with a good offset (they already sit flush with the fender and aren't as tucked in as the stock wheels) then you won't need spacers. Some people have gone without the front camber bolts as well, but I'd say just get them. They'll help with your alignment and they're only $25.

[TwoFourFive]

Originally Posted by ericmpena

SPC Front Camber Bolts $25: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/271353238922?lpid=82

Wheel Spacers (Optional): http://www.b2autodesigns.com/index.p...1129_1216_1341

You can probably tell right now that the wheels sit pretty far inside of the wheel fenders. When you lower your car it's going to be much more obvious. A lot of people want the wheels to be flush with the fender and not be tucked in. If you want that look then you'll want to get 20mm spacers for the front, and 25mm spacers for the rear (For stock wheels). You can find them for sell used on the Member's Classifieds...or just buy them from B2 Auto. They're the cheapest I've found. Before I stumbled upon B2 Auto I was almost about to purchase spacers from Eibach which were $200 for 2 as opposed to $200 for the set of 4!

If you have aftermarket wheels with a good offset (they already sit flush with the fender and aren't as tucked in as the stock wheels) then you won't need spacers. Some people have gone without the front camber bolts as well, but I'd say just get them. They'll help with your alignment and they're only $25.

Okay cool thanks so much for the help.

[Gunman]

If you want to geek out on some spring numbers:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B00...it?usp=sharing

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Gunman

If you want to geek out on some spring numbers:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B00...it?usp=sharing

Something is wrong with your ride frequency numbers.

- Andy

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Something is wrong with your ride frequency numbers.

- Andy

Any thoughts on what? Spread sheet should be shared, and editable. I just ask that you note what was changed, why, etc.

[FR-Slide]

No mention of RSR or Swift? I was pretty much sold on the Swifts, but there seem to be so many opinions here. This would be for DD and maybe canyon use, not track time.

Where would you rank RSR or Swift to Eibachs/RCE? What about Hotchkis or Tein?

Edit: and a follow-up! I'll be running stock wheels for a bit, so was going to get spacers. I don't want to make them hellaflush or anything, was thinking 15f/25r. I know B2 is a vendor here, but is there anything wrong with just getting hubcentric spacers off of like Amazon?