Esso is now offering 93

[Young_makaveli]

Originally Posted by mashal

Just filled up my car at my uncles shell station, did not see a sticker of any of the pumps regarding ethanol.
You may have sticker where you live and are you sure it was a shell.

Lol pretty sure , there's a big logo saying "shell"

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[mashal]

Originally Posted by Young_makaveli

Lol pretty sure , there's a big logo saying "shell"

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Just making sure

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by mashal

Petro canada has never been considered premium fuel. Shell and esso are both 91 octane non ethanol. I Dont know if 10% ethanol makes up the 3 octane levels. Why Dont you fill up with 94 and keep us posted?

Since when has petro never been considered premium fuel? You do know that petro 94 is the exact same fuel that sunoco sold, right?

In Ontario, the only ethanol free fuel is Shell 91 V Power. Every single Esso station I've been to has a label that says it can contain up to 10% ethanol.

I've run petro 94 a number of times, I don't feel any appreciable difference in performance but I do get worse mileage on any fuel with ethanol compared to shell 91.

As for ethanol and raising octane... ethanol has an octane rating of ~99, so if you took 91 octane gas with no ethanol and mixed in 10% pure ethanol you would end up with 91.8 octane, to get 94 octane form 91 by mixing it with ethanol would require a mix of about 40% ethanol.

I've had crickets on shell gas, and no crickets on 94, it seems to be more random than directly related to ethanol content of the fuel.

[mashal]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Since when has petro never been considered premium fuel? You do know that petro 94 is the exact same fuel that sunoco sold, right?

In Ontario, the only ethanol free fuel is Shell 91 V Power. Every single Esso station I've been to has a label that says it can contain up to 10% ethanol.

I've run petro 94 a number of times, I don't feel any appreciable difference in performance but I do get worse mileage on any fuel with ethanol compared to shell 91.

As for ethanol and raising octane... ethanol has an octane rating of ~99, so if you took 91 octane gas with no ethanol and mixed in 10% pure ethanol you would end up with 91.8 octane, to get 94 octane form 91 by mixing it with ethanol would require a mix of about 40% ethanol.

I've had crickets on shell gas, and no crickets on 94, it seems to be more random than directly related to ethanol content of the fuel.

Agreed. I did say previously that crickets are hit and miss.
I also did not realize that gas was so different across Canada.

When I said 91 is the highest, I meant the highest you will find ethanol free across Canada is 91. Which is still true and it may also be Shell only in some provinces.

[Young_makaveli]

I wish I could use 94 as in my opinion I find that I get better gas mileage but that may be cause I've used petro canada 94 on summer and during winter we get worst gas mileage

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[drewbot]

FWIW, I was stuck coming down from Blue Mountain the other week and had to fill up at an Esso. Put 93 E10 in and the fuel pump sounded disgusting. Exactly like it did when I picked up my car from Toyota that put in Petro Canada Ultra 94.

After that 1/4 tank went, I filled her up all the way with Shell V-Power 91 E0, and had the smooth idle again.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by drewbot

FWIW, I was stuck coming down from Blue Mountain the other week and had to fill up at an Esso. Put 93 E10 in and the fuel pump sounded disgusting. Exactly like it did when I picked up my car from Toyota that put in Petro Canada Ultra 94.

After that 1/4 tank went, I filled her up all the way with Shell V-Power 91 E0, and had the smooth idle again.

My fuel pump also started having a fit after putting in Petro 94. Been on Shell 91 since delivery so I guess it makes sense, my pump is accustomed to ethanol free. It made an obnoxious woodpecker sound at idle with the Petro 94, which went away with the next tank of V-power. I guess I'm stuck with ethanol free, shame we can't get above 91 without it, but cool to see another station offering above 91, there is a market for it ;p

[Thorpedo]

All you goofs arguing about this have to realize this stuff can vary province by province.

I'm in NS and use Vpower91. It is the only grade at my local shell that says it has no ethanol.

I would love to try Esso 94 in the Baru though. There was an Esso in Guelph when I lived there years ago that had 94 FWIW.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Thorpedo

There was an Esso in Guelph when I lived there years ago that had 94 FWIW.

Which Esso is that? I grew up in Guelph.

[Thorpedo]

Wish I could remember. This was years back when I had a Lincoln Mark VIII. Hell of a car!

I'll take a peek at some on google maps and see what I can come up with.

[chenshuo]

for those of you who dont know what sticker we're talking about on shell pumps, here it is:

[Dipstik-sportech]

My shell stations don't have that sticker

The Frozen North

[aghuman]

Originally Posted by chenshuo

I always gas shell 91 v-power but last night i was low on gas so went to a gas station nearby which was esso and noticed that they now have 93. Has anyone tried esso 93 and do you get chirp? What would u go with shell 91 or esso 93? I heard esso 91 is ethanol free?

I spoke to an ESSO rep the other day and he told me all ESSO 91 gas in Ontario is Ethanol FREE. He did advise me that the 93 would have ethanol in it however. Take that info with a grain of salt since a lot of people dispute that but I figured asking the company was the best bet. I've been using it from day 1. At about 40000 km now and had chirps once, after a 2 hour drive about a month ago.

[drewbot]

Originally Posted by aghuman

I spoke to an ESSO rep the other day and he told me all ESSO 91 gas in Ontario is Ethanol FREE. He did advise me that the 93 would have ethanol in it however. Take that info with a grain of salt since a lot of people dispute that but I figured asking the company was the best bet. I've been using it from day 1. At about 40000 km now and had chirps once, after a 2 hour drive about a month ago.

I am friends with an Imperial employee and he said that all "premium" Esso gas in the Toronto region will slowly be converted to 93 E10.

He also said that some stations have 93 E10, but the pumps themselves only have a button for 91. Thus, you may be getting 93 for the price of 91 (YMMV).