Esso is now offering 93

[mashal]

Originally Posted by Young_makaveli

That's weird ..When I was at shell 87 and 89 had a sticker saying "may contain xx% of ethanol" and 91 had a sticker saying "contains no ethanol"



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Hmm I'll check on that again. Last I checked they were non ethanol. Its been a while since I have got any other gas so I Dont look anymore lol.

[Young_makaveli]

Originally Posted by mashal

Hmm I'll check on that again. Last I checked they were non ethanol. Its been a while since I have got any other gas so I Dont look anymore lol.

It's all good

I may be mistaken too lol

Thanks

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[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Young_makaveli

That's weird ..When I was at shell 87 and 89 had a sticker saying "may contain xx% of ethanol" and 91 had a sticker saying "contains no ethanol"



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This is correct.

[krayzie]

As for me I stick with real petrol. I will never feed my car GMO corn. If it's bad for you it's probably bad for the car too.

[KPR10]

Only use shell vpower 91 ethanol free. No chirps at all after 15K kms

[congee]

Only vpower 91 contains no ethanol at shell.
And isn't it bad to fill up our cars with 87?

[Young_makaveli]

Originally Posted by congee

Only vpower 91 contains no ethanol at shell.
And isn't it bad to fill up our cars with 87?

Not really ..it recommends premium but if you're empty and need to fill up and only have regular gas then you can use regular as an emergency

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[wparsons]

Originally Posted by hmong337

This car runs like ass on 91. I stick to PC94. Chirps come and go. Toyobaru also threw in free crickets with the car so just deal with it.

I have an Esso close to me but they only have 91.

Running like ass must be very subjective, mine runs perfect on 91 octane.

Originally Posted by mashal

91 is the highest grade of fuel in Canada, anything over is ethanol based

Most 91 has ethanol as well (Petro included), so that's a bit of a moot point. Plus, would 10% ethanol be enough to raise the octane 3 points?

Originally Posted by Young_makaveli

Not really ..it recommends premium but if you're empty and need to fill up and only have regular gas then you can use regular as an emergency

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I wouldn't go anywhere near WOT on 87 octane, but for easy driving there's really no harm in an emergency.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Running like ass must be very subjective, mine runs perfect on 91 octane.



Most 91 has ethanol as well (Petro included), so that's a bit of a moot point. Plus, would 10% ethanol be enough to raise the octane 3 points?



I wouldn't go anywhere near WOT on 87 octane, but for easy driving there's really no harm in an emergency.

Agreed on all points.

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by Young_makaveli

have you tried shell v power ? It removes the cricket noise

I use to use pc94 and always had that problem til I switched

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I did a few tanks back to back with vpower91. Still crickets but less often than pc94. So I pretty much threw in the towel and just go straight pc94 all the time now.

My butt dyno definitely feels a noticable difference between 91 and 94. Sure the car accepts 91 but feels sluggish and noticable in power loss. Besides, the car is supposed to take 93 and up to run optimally so I just pump 94.

There are dynos floating around in regards to 91 vs 93. IIRC, 91 dynod at like 135-140whp and 93 dynod in the 160whp ranges.

Just pump 94 if you can get it.

[Young_makaveli]

Originally Posted by hmong337

I did a few tanks back to back with vpower91. Still crickets but less often than pc94. So I pretty much threw in the towel and just go straight pc94 all the time now.

My butt dyno definitely feels a noticable difference between 91 and 94. Sure the car accepts 91 but feels sluggish and noticable in power loss. Besides, the car is supposed to take 93 and up to run optimally so I just pump 94.

There are dynos floating around in regards to 91 vs 93. IIRC, 91 dynod at like 135-140whp and 93 dynod in the 160whp ranges.

Just pump 94 if you can get it.

Yeah I can pump 94 but it's just the crickets that bother me

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[jonboy99]

Originally Posted by hmong337

There are dynos floating around in regards to 91 vs 93. IIRC, 91 dynod at like 135-140whp and 93 dynod in the 160whp ranges.

Just pump 94 if you can get it.

Same car? Same dyno? I find it unbelievable 93 gives you another 20hp on a stock 86.


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[mashal]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Most 91 has ethanol as well (Petro included), so that's a bit of a moot point. Plus, would 10% ethanol be enough to raise the octane 3 points

Petro canada has never been considered premium fuel. Shell and esso are both 91 octane non ethanol. I Dont know if 10% ethanol makes up the 3 octane levels. Why Dont you fill up with 94 and keep us posted?

[mashal]

Originally Posted by Young_makaveli

That's weird ..When I was at shell 87 and 89 had a sticker saying "may contain xx% of ethanol" and 91 had a sticker saying "contains no ethanol"



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Just filled up my car at my uncles shell station, did not see a sticker of any of the pumps regarding ethanol.
You may have sticker where you live and are you sure it was a shell.